[Electronics-talk] ATM's

Sat Jul 3 18:49:53 UTC 2010

Steve, you're right.  When the NFB was taking its legal action I was one of
the testers.  I went to every ATM in a three-county area and at that time
only Chase Bank had an accessible machine; that was in 2005.  Now there are
more of them.
Joyce

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[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:39 PM
To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's

Just as an FYI, I looked at the Access Board and took it one step further to
see what the ADAAG held in regards to guidelines surrounding accessible
ATM's.  It is very vague, and unlike so many other parts of the ADAAG, it
lacks the specific elements an ATM should contain. So, the answer to my
question is yes, there are specifications within the ADA governing access to
ATM's for the blind, but it is so vague that it creates a loophole for
financial institutions to get through and around.  Fortunately to the work
and strong advocacy of organizations such as the NFB, we see that larger
financial companies realize that the market for this technology goes way
beyond persons who are blind/visually impaired.

Just my opinion,

Steve

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[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brock
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:40 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's

Good grief!  It's simply easier--and cheaper--for banks to have all the
machines made to the same specifications, rather than worrying about where
they should put accessible machines and where not.  For starters, they'd
have to hire someone full-time to read all the chatter on lists like this
one!  So each of us can just plain choose:  walk into the bank, walk up to
an outside ATM, have a driver do the transaction for us, sit in the back
seat and do the transaction ourselves, or skip the whole thing by using
debit or credit cards for everything.  What's the big deal?

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From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:26 AM
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> Hey! I was joking.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Shaw" <tshaw2007 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
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>>
>> I have never been afraid of getting mugged. If you act confident you 
>> are no more likely to get mugged doing it that a person driving 
>> through the ATM is to get carjacked
>>
>>> From: k7uij at panix.com
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:26:01 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>
>>> And get mugged! <g>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>
>>>
>>> > That would work if the cab driver would do it. Personally I'd much 
>>> > rather be able to walk up to it.
>>> > Joyce
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David 
>>> > Andrews
>>> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:09 PM
>>> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I do it regularly.
>>> >
>>> > Dave
>>> > At 07:54 AM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
>>> >>Actually, we (NFB) are advocating that such machines be accessible.
>>> >>Could not you envision a circumstance wherein you were in a cab and
>>> >>wanted cash so had the cabby pull up so the machine faced the back
>>> >>window where you are?
>>> >>
>>> >>Mike
>>> >>
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Porter"
>>> > <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>>> >>To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>> >><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:30 AM
>>> >>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Speaking of ATM's, my bank has one with speech but guess where it is!

>>> >>>It
>>> > is
>>> >>>at the drive-up window. Tell me how much sense that makes. That is 
>>> >>>the
>>> >>>only ATM this bank has. Today I plan to call them.
>>> >>>Joyce
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > David Andrews: dandrews at visi.com
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