[Electronics-talk] ATM's

Sat Jul 3 19:45:54 UTC 2010

I use cash very infrequently also.  Even the snack bar at work will accept
my card.  I use cash at the Farmers Market.  I try to carry very little
cash.
Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dhunthausen
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:36 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's

I find myself needing cash less and less. The only time I use cash is for 
small purchases or vending machines where it doesn't make sense to pull out 
a card. Even so, most of the new vending machines including the ones at my 
college have a credit card slot. I guess they don't want you to passup a 
soda because you don't have the cash.

Drew

Drew Hunthausen
714-296-7111
Mailto: dhunthausen at gmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's

> Unfortunately some banks are not providing that service.  Even more
> unfortunately, there is no bank close to my office so the only time I can
> bank is either on Saturdays or using an ATM.  That's why I shop with my 
> card
> as much as I do and I can use the ATM at the grocery store and at one
> Wal-Mart if I have a reason to go there.
> Joyce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:14 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>
>
> The ADA is a joke.  Has anyone ever been criminally prosecuted for 
> violating
>
> a disabled person's civil rights under the ADA?  Of course not.  So banks
> can routinely disregard the ADA with respect to accessible ATM's.  If they
> get caught brading the rules, they simply pay the nominal fine and merely
> raise their fees to cover it.  Just the cost of doing business. 
> Personally,
> I never use ATM's.  Any time I need cash, I just walk up to the customer
> service desk at my local bank and the service rep assigned to my account
> handles the transaction.  Safe and simple.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Johnson" <stevencjohnson at centurytel.net>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>
>
>> Just as an FYI, I looked at the Access Board and took it one step further
>> to
>> see what the ADAAG held in regards to guidelines surrounding accessible
>> ATM's.  It is very vague, and unlike so many other parts of the ADAAG, it
>> lacks the specific elements an ATM should contain. So, the answer to my
>> question is yes, there are specifications within the ADA governing access
>> to
>> ATM's for the blind, but it is so vague that it creates a loophole for
>> financial institutions to get through and around.  Fortunately to the 
>> work
>> and strong advocacy of organizations such as the NFB, we see that larger
>> financial companies realize that the market for this technology goes way
>> beyond persons who are blind/visually impaired.
>>
>> Just my opinion,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brock
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:40 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>
>> Good grief!  It's simply easier--and cheaper--for banks to have all the
>> machines made to the same specifications, rather than worrying about 
>> where
>> they should put accessible machines and where not.  For starters, they'd
>> have to hire someone full-time to read all the chatter on lists like this
>> one!  So each of us can just plain choose:  walk into the bank, walk up 
>> to
>> an outside ATM, have a driver do the transaction for us, sit in the back
>> seat and do the transaction ourselves, or skip the whole thing by using
>> debit or credit cards for everything.  What's the big deal?
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:26 AM
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>
>>> Hey! I was joking.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Shaw" <tshaw2007 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have never been afraid of getting mugged. If you act confident you
>>>> are no more likely to get mugged doing it that a person driving
>>>> through the ATM is to get carjacked
>>>>
>>>>> From: k7uij at panix.com
>>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:26:01 -0700
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>>>
>>>>> And get mugged! <g>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:34 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > That would work if the cab driver would do it. Personally I'd much
>>>>> > rather be able to walk up to it.
>>>>> > Joyce
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
>>>>> > Andrews
>>>>> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:09 PM
>>>>> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, I do it regularly.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dave
>>>>> > At 07:54 AM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
>>>>> >>Actually, we (NFB) are advocating that such machines be accessible.
>>>>> >>Could not you envision a circumstance wherein you were in a cab and
>>>>> >>wanted cash so had the cabby pull up so the machine faced the back
>>>>> >>window where you are?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Mike
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Porter"
>>>>> > <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>>>>> >>To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>>>> >><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:30 AM
>>>>> >>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ATM's
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Speaking of ATM's, my bank has one with speech but guess where it
>>>>> >>>is!
>>
>>>>> >>>It
>>>>> > is
>>>>> >>>at the drive-up window. Tell me how much sense that makes. That is
>>>>> >>>the
>>>>> >>>only ATM this bank has. Today I plan to call them.
>>>>> >>>Joyce
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > David Andrews: dandrews at visi.com
>>>>> > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > Electronics-talk mailing list
>>>>> > Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > Electronics-talk:
>>>>> >
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.po
>>>>> > rter%40verizon.net
>>>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>> > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2978 - Release Date:
>>>>> > 07/02/10
>>>>> > 18:35:00
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > Electronics-talk mailing list
>>>>> > Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > Electronics-talk:
>>>>> >
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40pa
>> nix.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>>>>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> Electronics-talk:
>>>>>
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/tshaw2007%
>> 40hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with
>>>> Hotmail.
>>>>
>>
>
http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283
>> 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>>>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Electronics-talk:
>>>>
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40pa
>> nix.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Electronics-talk:
>>>
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/mmebrock%4
>> 0spiritone.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Electronics-talk:
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/stevencjoh
>> nson%40centurytel.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Electronics-talk:
>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/bwaylimite
> d%40verizon.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.po
> rter%40verizon.net
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2978 - Release Date: 07/03/10
> 06:35:00
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Electronics-talk:
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/dhunthause
n%40gmail.com 

_______________________________________________
Electronics-talk mailing list
Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Electronics-talk:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.po
rter%40verizon.net
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2978 - Release Date: 07/03/10
06:35:00