[Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
Renee Jones
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:41:02 -0500
> From: Tim Shaw <tshaw2007 at hotmail.com>
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> the one walmart had was around $90
>
>> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:58:14 -0700
>> From: Andrew.Baracco at va.gov
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>
>> Personally, I just go and get the micro I want and use clear Dimo tape
>> to make my own overlay. Most of the models modified for speech are
>> grossly overpriced. You pay $400 for an $80 micro, and I have heard of
>> several instances where the speech stopped working after a few months.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:48 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Before I get down to some googling on the subject, I'm interested in
>> hearing
>> any recommendations you may have for free-standing accessible microwave
>> ovens, either with speech or models that have tactile overlays for their
>>
>> touchscreens. What's out there these days?
>> All suggestions are appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:28:20 -0400
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
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> Hi,
>
> Yes, this was the Sunbeam. It is still available through some retailers.
> Check blindbargains.com. Independent Living Aids, had it the last I checked
> for around $150.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Shaw
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>
> its been ahwile, but aroudn christmas time last ear Walmart had a talking
> microwave for sale on their website
>
>> From: trlange at pacbell.net
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:48:06 -0700
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Before I get down to some googling on the subject, I'm interested in
> hearing
>> any recommendations you may have for free-standing accessible microwave
>> ovens, either with speech or models that have tactile overlays for their
>> touchscreens. What's out there these days?
>> All suggestions are appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
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> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
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> Again, this was the Hamilton Beach Cook Magic, not a Sunbeam. In any case
> it has been discontinued, but is still abailable from Independent Living
> Aids for about $140.
>
> Gerald
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:28 PM
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, this was the Sunbeam. It is still available through some retailers.
>> Check blindbargains.com. Independent Living Aids, had it the last I
>> checked
>> for around $150.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Shaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:30 AM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>
>>
>> its been ahwile, but aroudn christmas time last ear Walmart had a talking
>> microwave for sale on their website
>>
>>> From: trlange at pacbell.net
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:48:06 -0700
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Before I get down to some googling on the subject, I'm interested in
>> hearing
>>> any recommendations you may have for free-standing accessible microwave
>>> ovens, either with speech or models that have tactile overlays for their
>>> touchscreens. What's out there these days?
>>> All suggestions are appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:58:14 -0400
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
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> Hi,
>
> Sorry, you are right. I think Sunbeam may have sold the same one under
> their name, but I may be mistaken. You are referring to the same one Mary
> and I had for a while. Not too bad a machine, not real great, though.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>
>
> Again, this was the Hamilton Beach Cook Magic, not a Sunbeam. In any case
> it has been discontinued, but is still abailable from Independent Living
> Aids for about $140.
>
> Gerald
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, this was the Sunbeam. It is still available through some retailers.
>> Check blindbargains.com. Independent Living Aids, had it the last I
>> checked
>> for around $150.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Shaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:30 AM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>
>>
>> its been ahwile, but aroudn christmas time last ear Walmart had a talking
>> microwave for sale on their website
>>
>>> From: trlange at pacbell.net
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:48:06 -0700
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Microwave Ovens
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Before I get down to some googling on the subject, I'm interested in
>> hearing
>>> any recommendations you may have for free-standing accessible microwave
>>> ovens, either with speech or models that have tactile overlays for their
>>> touchscreens. What's out there these days?
>>> All suggestions are appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:41:33 -0500
> From: Renee Jones <1056996 at gmatc.matc.edu>
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>> 1. Re: Accessible Phones for Verizon (Evelyn Weckerly)
>> 2. Re: Accessible Phones for Verizon (David Evans)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:50:40 -0400
>> From: Evelyn Weckerly <weckerly at i2k.com>
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
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>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
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>> Hi, Jim and list,
>>
>> I'm so long answering this because I went out of town for more than
>> two weeks. Just before going, I stopped at the Verizon wireless store
>> and asked some questions. They confirmed that the reception
>> capability of the Haven is not as good as my 8350 overall. I suspecgt
>> that I would have had some trouble with it while I was visiting
>> friends in rural Texas because reception was a bit iffy at my
>> friends' as it was. I have also had reception trouble in the past at
>> NFB conventions in Dallas though that's improved lately.
>>
>> Yes, I know reception can vary. My sister and brother-in-law had
>> terrible reception before they changed to Verizon wireless. On the
>> other hand, some friends had bad reception at their home before
>> leaving Verizon for another company.
>>
>> I'm not much concerned about reception here locally; ragther, it's
>> when I'm traveling. If I try the phone and don't travel anywhere
>> problematic, I could regret it down the road. I'm not especially
>> happy with the phone I have even for just making calls, so I would
>> welcome a change--but not yet.
>>
>> Evelyn
>>
>> At 11:34 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hello Evelyn and list,
>>>
>>>This business of signal strength is relative! There really isn't a
>>>standard as far as I can tell! How the signal is measured varies
>>>from phone to phone! Both the Haven and my LG VX5300 show a maximum
>>>signal strength of four. One can get quite a bit of signal at the
>>>zero point or even at 2 the halfway mark! My old 4650 had a maximum
>>>reading of six! I do have reception problems in my basement at
>>>times but it is no worse than my old LG VX5300. The advantage of
>>>the Haven is it usually tells me when I'm out of service or when I'm
>>>back in service again! I might move a few inches before I'm out of
>>>service and back in again! The antenna sticks out on the 5300 but
>>>one doesn't see it on the Haven! I find the signal quality to be
>>>better on the Haven. I understand that the 8300 series phones had
>>>exceptional reception and they may be hard to beat! I haven't used
>>>one myself so can't comment! I can say one thing though! the
>>>accessibility is so much better than anything I have used to
>>>date! I downloaded seven ringtones today! I never did this
>>>before! I even made one myself which worked in this phone but I
>>>didn't keep it! Believe me! This Haven is an amazing phone! Try
>>>it for thirty days and if you don't like it, return to Verizon and
>>>go back to your 8300.
>>>
>>>This Haven phone is well worth the money!
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:02 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>There is a price though. I stopped at a Verizon Wireless store
>>>>yesterday and asked about its reception quality as compared to my
>>>>three-year-old LG 8350.
>>>>the man said that the Haven's reception is lower quality. I have
>>>>decided that I will not pay that price. I know enough people who
>>>>have reception problems with their phones. I've had a few, but I
>>>>don't want an increase there. When Verizon and Samsung improve the
>>>>reception quality, I'll be a lot more interested.
>>>>
>>>>I listened to Mike Barber's podcast. In it he mentioned that in his
>>>>basement where he was making the recording, the Haven's reception
>>>>wsas zero bars. No thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Evelyn
>>>>
>>>>At 12:50 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>Verizon now has the Samsung Haven! It reads all levels of
>>>>>menus. It is a basic phone, no qwerty keyboard, can text
>>>>>message. For now, this is what they have going!
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>>>>> <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:48 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Does verizon even have any model of accessible cell phone on the
>>>>>>market where users have access to all levels of menus? Whenever
>>>>>>I had a Verizon phone in the past, I could only go down just so
>>>>>>far on menu levels and then the accessibility stopped; there was
>>>>>>no speech or menu choices beyond that point. Another problem
>>>>>>with verizon phones I had was no useable apps for the phones that
>>>>>>were accessible either. This was also true for AT&T phones until
>>>>>>I got my IPhone 3gs then all of those problems went away. Best
>>>>>>money I ever spent on a cell phone in my life!On Fri, 16 Apr
>>>>>>2010, Gail The U. S. Male, Proud Grandpa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. the Nokia N82
>>>>>>>is a gsm phone, not a CDMA.
>>>>>>>Gail
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: " Rob Tabor" <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:33 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The Nokia N82 phones we have is currently subscribed to AT&T
>>>>>>>>Mobile. The N82
>>>>>>>>is an unlocked CDMA 3G phone which is compatible with two mobile
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>>carriers, of which the other is T-Mobile.
>>>>>>>>HTH
>>>>>>>>Rob Tabor
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Dreicer, Zachary, Survey" <z.dreicer at emissives.com>
>>>>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
>>>>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:08 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way what company are you using on your phone N82 that you
>>>>>>>>demonstrated last weekend?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Haro, Juan, CFB" <Juan.Haro at state.nm.us
>>>>>>>>>To: "Rob Tabor" <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>,"Discussion of
>>>>>>>>accessible electronics and
>>>>>>>>appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:45:31 -0600
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I believe that Talks does not work on Windows Mobile but Mobile
>>>>>>>>Speak does. Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Juan F. Haro, M.A., NOMCT
>>>>>>>>>Cane Travel Instructor
>>>>>>>>>Commission for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>408 N. White Sands Blvd.
>>>>>>>>>Alamogordo, NM 88310
>>>>>>>>>Phone: (575) 437-0401
>>>>>>>>>Email: juan.haro at state.nm.us
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob
>>>>>>>>Tabor
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dear colleagues.
>>>>>>>>>My employer is considering changing mobile phone carriers to
>>>>>>>>Verizon in an effort to save telecom expense in our tight budget.
>>>>>>>>Luckily, our executive director is very conscientious in
>>>>>>>>considering my needs for accessibility, which prompts my
>>>>>>>>question. Can anyone commend a good accessible phone,
>>>>>>>>preferrably one that runs Talks, since I use Talks as the screen
>>>>>>>>reader for my personal phone which is a Nokia N82? I understand
>>>>>>>>LG has several models keyed to Verizon's communication relay
>>>>>>>>towers. If we end up electing to take phones running Windows
>>>>>>>>Mobile instead of Simbian OS will Talks run on a Win Mobile
>>>>>>>>phone? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>Rob Tabor
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>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:22:24 -0400
>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>> Message-ID: <901524510CF84898B159249CDBF893FB at DAVID>
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>>
>> Dear Evelyn,
>>
>> The reception of the phone is not the issue here, it it the coverage area
>> of
>> the cell phone companies service towers. If the cell company has poor
>> coverage, the phone just can not get the signal. The phone is always
>> going
>> to do it's best to get the signal, but it is the company's coverage that
>> is
>> the real limiting factor.
>> it also depends on the cooperation between companies that share towers and
>> service areas. This can make a difference too. If your company does not
>> have good coverage in that area, it will not matter who's phone you are
>> using.
>> I an using the other accessible phone from Verizon called the "Gusto".
>>
>> All of the features are accessible to and the phone also has a camera and
>> can do text messages and the internet as well as has a G.P.S. application
>> you can get that is accessible too.
>>
>> David Evans, NFB and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Jim and list,
>>>
>>> I'm so long answering this because I went out of town for more than two
>>> weeks. Just before going, I stopped at the Verizon wireless store and
>>> asked some questions. They confirmed that the reception capability of the
>>> Haven is not as good as my 8350 overall. I suspecgt that I would have had
>>> some trouble with it while I was visiting friends in rural Texas because
>>> reception was a bit iffy at my friends' as it was. I have also had
>>> reception trouble in the past at NFB conventions in Dallas though that's
>>> improved lately.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know reception can vary. My sister and brother-in-law had terrible
>>> reception before they changed to Verizon wireless. On the other hand,
>>> some
>>>
>>> friends had bad reception at their home before leaving Verizon for
>>> another
>>>
>>> company.
>>>
>>> I'm not much concerned about reception here locally; ragther, it's when
>>> I'm traveling. If I try the phone and don't travel anywhere problematic,
>>> I
>>>
>>> could regret it down the road. I'm not especially happy with the phone I
>>> have even for just making calls, so I would welcome a change--but not
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> Evelyn
>>>
>>> At 11:34 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Hello Evelyn and list,
>>>>
>>>>This business of signal strength is relative! There really isn't a
>>>>standard as far as I can tell! How the signal is measured varies from
>>>>phone to phone! Both the Haven and my LG VX5300 show a maximum signal
>>>>strength of four. One can get quite a bit of signal at the zero point or
>>>>even at 2 the halfway mark! My old 4650 had a maximum reading of six! I
>>>>do have reception problems in my basement at times but it is no worse
>>>> than
>>>>
>>>>my old LG VX5300. The advantage of the Haven is it usually tells me when
>>>>I'm out of service or when I'm back in service again! I might move a few
>>>>inches before I'm out of service and back in again! The antenna sticks
>>>> out
>>>>
>>>>on the 5300 but one doesn't see it on the Haven! I find the signal
>>>>quality to be better on the Haven. I understand that the 8300 series
>>>>phones had exceptional reception and they may be hard to beat! I haven't
>>>>used one myself so can't comment! I can say one thing though! the
>>>>accessibility is so much better than anything I have used to date! I
>>>>downloaded seven ringtones today! I never did this before! I even made
>>>>one myself which worked in this phone but I didn't keep it! Believe me!
>>>>This Haven is an amazing phone! Try it for thirty days and if you don't
>>>>like it, return to Verizon and go back to your 8300.
>>>>
>>>>This Haven phone is well worth the money!
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:02 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a price though. I stopped at a Verizon Wireless store yesterday
>>>>>and asked about its reception quality as compared to my three-year-old
>>>>> LG
>>>>>
>>>>>8350.
>>>>>the man said that the Haven's reception is lower quality. I have decided
>>>>>that I will not pay that price. I know enough people who have reception
>>>>>problems with their phones. I've had a few, but I don't want an increase
>>>>>there. When Verizon and Samsung improve the reception quality, I'll be a
>>>>>lot more interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>I listened to Mike Barber's podcast. In it he mentioned that in his
>>>>>basement where he was making the recording, the Haven's reception wsas
>>>>>zero bars. No thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Evelyn
>>>>>
>>>>>At 12:50 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>Verizon now has the Samsung Haven! It reads all levels of menus. It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a basic phone, no qwerty keyboard, can text message. For now, this is
>>>>>>what they have going!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>>>>>><jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:48 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does verizon even have any model of accessible cell phone on the
>>>>>>> market
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>where users have access to all levels of menus? Whenever I had a
>>>>>>>Verizon phone in the past, I could only go down just so far on menu
>>>>>>>levels and then the accessibility stopped; there was no speech or menu
>>>>>>>choices beyond that point. Another problem with verizon phones I had
>>>>>>>was no useable apps for the phones that were accessible either. This
>>>>>>>was also true for AT&T phones until I got my IPhone 3gs then all of
>>>>>>>those problems went away. Best money I ever spent on a cell phone in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>life!On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Gail The U. S. Male, Proud Grandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. the Nokia N82 is a
>>>>>>>>gsm phone, not a CDMA.
>>>>>>>>Gail
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: " Rob Tabor" <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:33 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The Nokia N82 phones we have is currently subscribed to AT&T Mobile.
>>>>>>>>>The N82
>>>>>>>>>is an unlocked CDMA 3G phone which is compatible with two mobile
>>>>>>>>>phone
>>>>>>>>>carriers, of which the other is T-Mobile.
>>>>>>>>>HTH
>>>>>>>>>Rob Tabor
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Dreicer, Zachary, Survey" <z.dreicer at emissives.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
>>>>>>>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>By the way what company are you using on your phone N82 that you
>>>>>>>>>demonstrated last weekend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Haro, Juan, CFB" <Juan.Haro at state.nm.us
>>>>>>>>>>To: "Rob Tabor" <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>,"Discussion of
>>>>>>>>>accessible electronics and
>>>>>>>>>appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:45:31 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I believe that Talks does not work on Windows Mobile but Mobile
>>>>>>>>>Speak does. Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Juan F. Haro, M.A., NOMCT
>>>>>>>>>>Cane Travel Instructor
>>>>>>>>>>Commission for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>408 N. White Sands Blvd.
>>>>>>>>>>Alamogordo, NM 88310
>>>>>>>>>>Phone: (575) 437-0401
>>>>>>>>>>Email: juan.haro at state.nm.us
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob
>>>>>>>>>Tabor
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Phones for Verizon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dear colleagues.
>>>>>>>>>>My employer is considering changing mobile phone carriers to
>>>>>>>>>Verizon in an effort to save telecom expense in our tight budget.
>>>>>>>>>Luckily, our executive director is very conscientious in
>>>>>>>>>considering my needs for accessibility, which prompts my
>>>>>>>>>question. Can anyone commend a good accessible phone,
>>>>>>>>>preferrably one that runs Talks, since I use Talks as the screen
>>>>>>>>>reader for my personal phone which is a Nokia N82? I understand
>>>>>>>>>LG has several models keyed to Verizon's communication relay
>>>>>>>>>towers. If we end up electing to take phones running Windows
>>>>>>>>>Mobile instead of Simbian OS will Talks run on a Win Mobile
>>>>>>>>>phone? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>Rob Tabor
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> Oh boy! I thought the Haven sounded so good. Damn, why did the have to
> screw you over with poor reseption?
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