[Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple productsandmainstream level playing field
Tom Evans
tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Feb 20 13:24:00 UTC 2011
Docuscan plus from system access or setotek, just started learning about
last night. they are $300 and pay the price one time. where could I find
an areticle looking at how good this product is like they used to compare
open book and k1000?
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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:18 AM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple
productsandmainstream level playing field
Read iris, Abby fine reader, omni page, scan view and most scanners
come with one of these out the box.
Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone
(623) 565-9357
On Feb 20, 2011, at 6:12 AM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> What product does Apple offer that is comparable to Open Book or K1000?
Are there any text to speech programs that work with the Mac? I have not
heard much discussion about this. Can you just buy a scanner , plug it into
a Mac and presto, have an instant reading machine? Inquiring minds would
like to know.
>
> Gerald
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "fred olver" <goodfolks at charter.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:20 PM
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>> Wouldn't it be nice if state services for the blind would consider the
accessability of Apple products instead of having on-going contracts with
sellers of thousand dollar products which can only do one thing.
>>
>> Fred Olver
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Ballantyne"
<sballan at nexicom.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:33 PM
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple products
andmainstream level playing field
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>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> As I said earlier I am a brand new Mac user. I made the switch for a
number of reasons. The software is all there right out of the box and I
don't have to buy expensive software to be a screen reader or pay for
expensive SMA agreements. Not only is there support at the apple store but
any person who is a Mac user can simply turn their own voice over on and
start looking around a bit. Instead of being a party of one using JAWS (or
what can feel like that) I can have any number of conversations with plenty
of Mac users and they can more easily troubleshoot with me in a way that I
not experienced as a PC user. I also have the magic track pad along with
the keyboard and these gestures fully place me on the same playing field
with iphone, ipod touch and ipad users who can explain gestures to me as I
need. The help of keyboard description when turned on voice over plus the
letter k not only lets you sort out the keyboard but the track pad is also
put into a key describer mode as well, which is really good for me as a new
user.
>>>
>>> I agree the Mac product is not cheap but there are no added softwares to
add or a blind only niche market and while I am still brand new, even with
all my exploring I have never had voice over cut out or had things freeze.
The fact that Macs are not experiencing the windows crash kind of things on
the PC side I really look forward to.
>>>
>>> I am really enjoying the voice. It is different and there is actual
amore human sound to it. While I am quite accustomed to JAWS and am fine
with that, I have been experiencing that people can understand voice over
Alex whereas they can't get their head around the JAWS voice and call it
robot headache.
>>>
>>> If I don't get my head around this I am thinking about calling up the
local high school and speaking to the computer teacher there to see if he or
she has a bright teenager who would be willing to turn on voice over and
figure some things out and just hiring someone to come in and tutor me. Our
young people are not intimidated by these machines at all.
>>>
>>> That's my novel of feedback!
>>>
>>> Sharon
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