[Electronics-talk] Electronics-talk Digest, Vol 58, Issue 21

Gary Lee kb9zuv at arrl.net
Sat Feb 26 22:25:40 UTC 2011 

I would vote for abby finereader.  Going to get it myself.  Not sure it is voiceover compatible, but their windows software works with screen readers and is very very good.

On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Priscilla Garces wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> Does anyone know of a software where I can scan materials just like kurtzweil on windows but with the only difference that it's for mac?
> 
> Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.
> 
> 
> Priscilla	
> On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:00 PM, electronics-talk-request at nfbnet.org wrote:
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>>  1. Re: Electronics accessibility of	appleproductsandmainstream
>>     level playing field (James Aldrich)
>>  2. Intro (John J. Boyer)
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>> From: "James Aldrich" <jajkaldrich at gmail.com>
>> Date: February 25, 2011 2:56:31 PM EST
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of appleproductsandmainstream level playing field
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>> 
>> Docuscan plus is especially great with .pdf files.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> good
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Evans" <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of appleproductsandmainstream level playing field
>> 
>> 
>>> Docuscan plus from system access or setotek, just started learning about
>>> last night.  they are $300 and pay the price one time.  where could I find
>>> an areticle looking at how good this product is like they used to compare
>>> open book and k1000?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:18 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple
>>> productsandmainstream level playing field
>>> 
>>> Read iris, Abby fine reader, omni page, scan view and most scanners
>>> come with one of these out the box.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2011, at 6:12 AM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What product does Apple offer that is comparable to Open Book or K1000?
>>> Are there any text to speech programs that work with the Mac?  I have not
>>> heard much discussion about this.  Can you just buy a scanner , plug it into
>>> a Mac and presto, have an instant reading machine?  Inquiring minds would
>>> like to know.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "fred olver" <goodfolks at charter.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple
>>> productsandmainstream level playing field
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Wouldn't it be nice if state services for the blind would consider the
>>> accessability of Apple products instead of having on-going contracts with
>>> sellers of thousand dollar products which can only do one thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fred Olver
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Ballantyne"
>>> <sballan at nexicom.net>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Electronics accessibility of apple products
>>> andmainstream level playing field
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As I said earlier I am  a brand new Mac user. I made the switch for a
>>> number of reasons. The software is all there right out of the box and I
>>> don't have to buy expensive software to be a screen reader or pay for
>>> expensive SMA agreements. Not only is there support at the apple store but
>>> any person who is a Mac user can simply turn their own voice over on and
>>> start looking around a bit. Instead of being a party of one using JAWS (or
>>> what can feel like that) I can have any number of conversations with plenty
>>> of Mac users and they can more easily troubleshoot with me in a way that I
>>> not experienced as a PC user.  I also have the magic track pad along with
>>> the keyboard and these gestures fully place me on the same playing field
>>> with iphone, ipod touch and ipad users who can explain gestures to me as I
>>> need. The help of keyboard description when turned on voice over plus the
>>> letter k not only lets you sort out the keyboard but the track pad is also
>>> put into a key describer mode as well, which is really good for me as a new
>>> user.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree the Mac product is not cheap but there are no added softwares to
>>> add or a blind only niche market and while I am still brand new, even with
>>> all my exploring I have never had voice over cut out or had things freeze.
>>> The fact that Macs are not experiencing the windows crash kind of things on
>>> the PC side I really look forward to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am really enjoying the voice. It is different and there is actual
>>> amore human sound to it. While I am quite accustomed to JAWS and am fine
>>> with that, I have been experiencing that people can understand voice over
>>> Alex whereas they can't get their head around the JAWS voice and call it
>>> robot headache.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I don't get my head around this I am thinking about calling up the
>>> local high school and speaking to the computer teacher there to see if he or
>>> she has a bright teenager who would be willing to turn on voice over and
>>> figure some things out and just hiring someone to come in and tutor me. Our
>>> young people are not intimidated by these machines at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's my novel of feedback!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sharon
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>> From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer at abilitiessoft.com>
>> Date: February 26, 2011 4:59:15 AM EST
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Intro
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>> 
>> Some of you may know me from my work in software development. I also 
>> have a considerable interest and background in electronics. in 
>> particular, I would like to design and prototype equipmennt forr people 
>> with disabilities, butg I don't have the money to buy much. Also, I find 
>> it very difficult to keep up with developments, since I am deaf-blind. 
>> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>> 
>> I will be at CSUN on the FLOSS panel, speaking about tgghe liblouis 
>> suite of softeare and about the BrailleBlastger project. I hope to meet 
>> some of you there.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> 
>> -- 
>> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
>> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
>> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
>> Madison, Wisconsin USA
>> Developing software for people with disabilities
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