[Electronics-talk] Tissot vibrating watch [was "Re: TalkingSports Watch"]

Drew Hunthausen dhunthausen at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 00:44:19 UTC 2012 

If your looking for 100 percent equality your never going to find it no
matter where you go. There is no way for a company to make an adaptive
product for say 1,000 blind individuals at the same price as a company sells
a mainstream product to a million. The company would go out of business.

-----Original Message-----
From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:23 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Tissot vibrating watch [was "Re:
TalkingSports Watch"]

Well, I can tell you that I have had to use Apple products as my main screen
reader and cell phone because it's the only thing that doesn't cost a bloody
fortune every two years to update.  

Yes, I've had to spend more up front than the apple, but I'll be able to use
it much longer than any PC you can buy, and I don't have to pay hundreds of
dollars for screen reader updates each year.

As for the watches.  Again, to get one of any quality, you gotta pay for it,
and to get one that looks half way decent you also have to pay quite a bit
of money, which makers of these adaptive aids know most of us don't have.  

If there are such things are rich blind people, maybe they need to spread
some of the wealth around and help those of us who can't work have things
that are of better quality.  Yes, I've gotten watches and little aids from
the state, but they've all been of lesser quality than someone of means
would buy, and they don't look near as nice either.

that, in my opinion, is where other countries have us beat in so many ways.
they provide computers for people in australia because they know that you
can't live without them anymore in society, etc.

the people in wheelchairs and deaf get more adaptive equipment and
consideration and for free than the blind and it sucks and isn't equality by
a long shit.

sorry to rant but I'm generally frustrated with the whole situation about
equality for the disabled.  As far as the blind are concerned, there is no
such thing.

Jenny
On Apr 23, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Drew Hunthausen wrote:

> Jenny,
> I agree with everything your saying as I am a poor college student. 
> However, you have to consider that it is very expensive to make 
> something specifically for the blind as we are such a small 
> population. I currently cannot afford the more expensive Tissot watch, 
> but I can understand the merits of making a upscale watch that can 
> both serve the blind as well as sited people who want to spend the 
> money. Companies do this as to attract a more diverse population in 
> effort to stay in business. I also wish things were less expensive and we
had just as many options as our sited peers.
> 
> Drew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:26 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Tissot vibrating watch [was "Re:
> TalkingSports Watch"]
> 
> When 70 percent of the blind population is unemployed and that 
> statistic is probably a little higher.  It is rediculous to expect us 
> to have the money to purchase quality adaptive equipment.
> 
> the fact is, the things the state provides are not the highest of 
> quality, and on fixed incomes, most blind people can't afford a seco, 
> not to mention the kind of watches you're talking about.
> 
> I don't see anything wrong with living with your parents to save 
> money, but for those of us who don't have that option and are barely 
> surviving, it's a kick in the teeth when any accessable product, watch 
> or not, isn't available to them in any kind of quality, unless you 
> have a job.  Which I said before since 70 percent of us are unemployed,
it's a kick in the teeth.
> 
> JMO,
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure I understand this message. There are blind people across 
>> the economic spectrum, so there are plenty of blind people who could 
>> afford to or choose to purchase such a watch, whether they live at 
>> home or not. Furthermore, I don't think there's anything wrong with 
>> someone living at home, and if they save enough on living expenses 
>> that they can afford such a watch, more power to them. IMHO, this is 
>> a personal decision that each person has to make based on their own
> situation.
>> 
>> On 23/04/12 16:13, Tone wrote:
>>> yeah. not everyone lives at homewith mom and dad, and could blow 300 
>>> on a watch.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" 
>>> <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Tissot vibrating watch [was "Re:
>>> TalkingSports Watch"]
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Nothing is wrong with that.  I just don't think you should have to 
>>>> be rich to have a quality watch that doesn't scream I'M BLIND, look 
>>>> at me or hear me check the time.  I also don't think you should 
>>>> have to pay huge amounts of money to get a watch that isn't ugly, 
>>>> or a watch that works right when it's not.
>>>> 
>>>> sorry for the rant.  I'm on a fixed income, have health problems 
>>>> that preclude me from working, and frankly, feel screwed out of 
>>>> most blindness related options because I'm not rich enough to afford
them.
>>>> 
>>>> It doesn't work that way in other countries, and this great USA 
>>>> aught to follow suit.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What's wrong with a blind person being rich?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:14 AM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Tissot vibrating watch [was "Re: 
>>>>> Talking Sports Watch"]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, as I think I said in a previous message, I'm not sure this 
>>>>> watch was intended solely for the blind. I've also read that it 
>>>>> was meant for the businessman who didn't want to be seen checking 
>>>>> her watch or the sportsman who wasn't able to look at their 
>>>>> watches face
> for some reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remember too that this is a Tissot. They aren't going to make a 
>>>>> cheap watch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, although a lot of blind people are on fixed incomes, not 
>>>>> all of them are. I'm not going to say I can afford this watch 
>>>>> myself, but I think it's a good thing that a company that makes 
>>>>> quality watches, like Tissot, makes a watch that a well to do 
>>>>> blind person could aspire to own someday. If someone can't afford 
>>>>> a Tissot, there are other options out there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/04/12 07:32, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>>>>> sorry, but I find it rediculous that a watch that is helpful for 
>>>>>> the
>>>>> blind, who a lot of us are on fixed incomes, costs that much.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess it's for those who just have jobs and/or money to burn.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As I said in the attached email, Amazon is again selling the 
>>>>>>> Tissot Silen-T watch. This is the watch that a blind person can 
>>>>>>> use to tell time by feeling vibrations on the watches face. It's 
>>>>>>> currently selling for $470, but it was selling for $350, as a 
>>>>>>> promotional deal,
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a few weeks ago.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I found it on Amazon just using Google, but if anyone wants, I 
>>>>>>> can rerun my Google search and post the specific links.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure what the Tissot Vibren watch does, but I suspect 
>>>>>>> the poster was thinking of the Silen-T watch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/04/12 06:56, Stephen guerra wrote:
>>>>>>>> I believe you can only get the tissot vibrating watch from ebay 
>>>>>>>> as they are not actively being sold anymore and they run over
>>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>> Christopher Chaltain
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 2:20 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Talking Sports Watch
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar with the Tissot Vibren watch, and I wasn't 
>>>>>>>> able to find it via Google, but in the Tissot T-Touch series, 
>>>>>>>> the Silen-T is
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the accessible vibrating watch that a blind person could use. 
>>>>>>>> The other watches in the series vibrate, but not in a way that 
>>>>>>>> you could
>>>>> tell the time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Tissot Silen-T is available again, but the $349 price from 
>>>>>>>> Amazon was a promotional price that ended at the end of March.
>>>>>>>> It looks like the current price is around $469.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 21/04/12 19:01, Alan Siman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It was probably the Tissot vibren watch which apparently has 
>>>>>>>>> come back on the market for $349.00 at amazon (I think).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/2012 4:27 PM, Annette Carr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking for a vibrating watch.  I came across one 
>>>>>>>>>> advertised a very long time ago that some how vibrated as you 
>>>>>>>>>> ran your finger around the outside rim of the face, but 
>>>>>>>>>> cannot find it
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> any more.  I don't like talking watches because I also do not 
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> everyone to hear that I am checking the time, and many times 
>>>>>>>>>> I cannot hear what it says because of my hearing loss.
>>>>>>>>>> I struggle with braille watches as I have some loss of 
>>>>>>>>>> feeling in my hands.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Annette
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>>> Jenny Keller
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Talking Sports Watch
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> don't ask em where, but I could swear I have seen a water 
>>>>>>>>>> resistant, or water proof sports watch.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I can't remember where cause it's been a long time since I 
>>>>>>>>>> looked for a talking watch as I hate them with a passion.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm 4 feet 11 inches and the faces on them are just too big, 
>>>>>>>>>> no matter where I look.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, I don't want everyone and their mother to know if I 
>>>>>>>>>> want to check the time during church or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had one that I liked cause the face was blue and I really 
>>>>>>>>>> liked the way it looked, but it actually started running 
>>>>>>>>>> backwards and wouldn't sinc with the talking part, and 
>>>>>>>>>> quidckly after that happened the talking part went berserk too.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Oh well, I'm stuck with a braille watch.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Check out this inexpensive talking sports watch from Future
Aids.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>> not water resistant (I don't think there are any water 
>>>>>>>>>> resistant talking timepieces on the market because there is 
>>>>>>>>>> no way to prevent water from penetrating the speaker), but at
>>>>>>>>>> $14.95 with free shipping, it is a good deal.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.braillebookstore.com/view.php?T=Talking+Sports+Wa
>>>>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>>>>> ch
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Chao"
>>>>>>>>>>> <mattchao at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:03 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Talking Sports Watch
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am also looking for same.--Matthew Chao
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> At 11:11 PM 4/20/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to find a high quality talking sports
>>>>> watch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am hoping to find one that is somewhat water resistant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and am
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to find something like a nice Seiko or something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love some of the nice sports watches on the market 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now but they are not talking watches so I am unfortunately 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>> looking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know of something I would really appreciate it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much and sorry for my ramblings :) Linnie
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (CJ)
>>>>> chaltain at gmail.com
>>>>> 
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