[Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android phone

Linda Bloodsaw lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 17:24:15 UTC 2012 

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On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov> wrote:

> The prospective blind Android user must be tech savvy, and willing to
> engage in much research.  It's not like Apple, where the manufacturer
> controls the entire experience. Google may make a great product, but
> it's up to the manufacturers and carriers as to what actually shows up
> on any given model of phone.  It's not like Windows, where when a new
> version of the OS comes out, all new products are running that version.
> Every version of Android that has ever been produced is still out there,
> and available for manufactures and carriers to use.  Just because you
> buy a new phone, that doesn't mean that it will be running the latest
> OS. Also, some manufactures and carriers cell phones that come with
> their own skin, or home screen, which may not be accessible.  It is
> possible to get around all of this and to get a phone that is fairly
> accessible, but you have to know exactly what to ask and advocate for.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Barbour
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:11 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android phone
> 
> That's probably about right. Worse, many phones That could run jellybean
> won't because the carriers won't push i jellybean out to their phones.
> 
> So, you have to be very aware of what you're buying.
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, "Baracco, Andrew W"
> <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov> wrote:
> 
>> I understand that only 2% of available Android phones currently run 
>> Jellybean.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Barbour
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:14 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android 
>> phone
>> 
>> So, we've moved far away from the original question which was 
>> recomendations for an android phone.
>> 
>> I said some of this earlier, but I'll repeat it and add more here.
>> 
>> First, I highly recommend trying to make the iPhone work for you.  I 
>> believe it really is the best option out there.
>> 
>> Next, if you really want to try out an android phone, look for one 
>> that hsi running Jelly Bean.  The Jelly Bean version of talkBack now 
>> has the "explore by touch" technology built into the phone, which 
>> makes for a much nicer user experience for blind users.
>> 
>> As to which phone to get, I can recommend the "droid 4" phone, which 
>> runs on Verizon.  For other carriers, you'll need to ask around.  Some
> 
>> things you'll care about are...
>> 
>> * Does the phone have a physical keyboard, D-pad, joystick etc?  How
>>   do they feel in your hand?
>>   NOTE: you don't have to have these controls to use an android
>>   phone running Jelly Bean, but it really will help.
>> * Does the phone run Jelly Bean?
>> * How is the phone's battery life?
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:03:37AM -0400, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>>> hay you can get ear buds that have different size covers for small,
>> medium
>>> and large and they block out noise around you.  I get them for 10
>> bucks at
>>> drug store.com.  They are like the old style ear bud that goes into
>> the ear
>>> not just sit at the opening of the ear.  Those other kind of buds 
>>> hurt
>> my
>>> ears too.
>>> 
>>> Julie Phillipson
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller"
>> <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android
>> phone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I have very small ear connals, and very small ears that make it hard
>> to
>>>> find a bluetooth headset that fits properly that doesn't cost a
>> fortune.
>>>> 
>>>> I have one that sort of works, but it causes pain after wearing it
>> for any
>>>> long periods of time.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, our bus terminal is in a fowl neighborhood and some of the
>> people
>>>> who ride the bus are not the kind of people you'd want to let know
>> that
>>>> you have an iPhone 4S.
>>>> 
>>>> Love the joke though.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> How can something on your head cause a pain in your behind? LOL!
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny
>> Keller
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:09 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android
>> phone
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are bugs on the iPhone 4S such as SIRI deciding to stop
>> working
>>>>> and having to reset the phone at least twice a day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> there is also the bug that voiceover gets drowned out when you have
>> to
>>>>> push a number for the menus on phone things like press one for etc.
>> You
>>>>> can use a bluetooth or headset for that, but I don't like to have 
>>>>> anything on my head, so it's a pain in the behind.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sometimes, when just using the touch screen itself, if you are on
>> the
>>>>> contacts screen and you press contacts, it will flip to a blank
>> screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> things like that irritate me, and if I wanted a phone that didn't
>> have
>>>>> the capacity for SIRI working correctly, I would've just gotten the
> 
>>>>> iPhone 4 and not have had to spend the extra money, especially with
>> the
>>>>> bug in voiceover that gets drowned out by the speaker phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I called Apple Accessibility about both issues and they said they
>> were
>>>>> bugs and that they couldn't do anything about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> therefore, I have an upgrade available, and am seriously 
>>>>> considering
>> an
>>>>> android phone.  Though the Galaxy S3 turned out to be way ore 
>>>>> complicated than it was worth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Jenny,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm writing you back as I think my comments will be useful to
>> others.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been playing with various Android phones recently, and they
>> are
>>>>>> slowly catching up with the iPhone, in terms of blindness
>> usability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are a few good reasons to go with an android phone, but you 
>>>>>> should be aware of wha you're getting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you could tell us more about what you find frustrating about 
>>>>>> the iPhone, we can help you figure out if Android will be a better
> 
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 05:12:39PM -0500, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am getting very frustrated with my iPhone 4S and looked at the
>>>>> Galaxy 3s last week.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I found it to be more of a pain than it was worth.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I want an android that is at least Ice Cream Sandwich.  Any
>>>>> suggestions, and I would appreciate it if you would give me reasons
>> and
>>>>> good points and even bad about the phone you suggest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please write me off list as to keep traffic down.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jenny
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