[Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 20:49:16 UTC 2012


I don't think the FCC would have any control over Sirius XM, as 
it is a private company that is subscriber-based, but don't quote 
me on that.  I think that's why Howard Stern and other Sirius XM 
hosts are able to speak on their shows without any kind of sensor 
or filter on their words.  * Smile!

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and 
appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:20:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet 
Radio

Please file an official complaint with the F.C.C.  and include 
Section 508
violations in that complaint.  That will get attention.  I don't 
think
jamal maxzrui is on this list, but he does work at the f.c.c.  
and is
interested in things like this.On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Brett Boyer 
wrote:

 Well don't hold your breath waiting for that.  It has been an 
ongoing problem
 and as far as I know even the iphone app which was somewhat 
accessible has
 changed since the update and now is almost completely 
nonaccessible.  I
 subscribed to sirius for Howard Stern and as soon as I found an 
online
 alternative and realized how difficult the sirius website was to  
navigate I
 unsubscribed.  When I talked to the people and explained why I 
was
 unsubscribing they had no clue what I was talking about and put 
bad reception
 as my reason of cancelation.
 bb
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 Check out my radio show at my new home:
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 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nusbaum" 
<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
 <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio


I have the Starmate 5 receiver, and I agree with your friend that 
it is
pretty usable, as has been said before.  However, there are some 
features to
the radios which aren't available to us; reading the song title 
and artist,
the channel name and number, and reading the call-in number for 
the channel
you are listening to (if that channel has one,) as this 
information is
displayed on the
 screen of the radio for sighted people.  All the on-screen menus 
and channel
 look-up features of the radio are also inaccessible.  There is a 
work-around
 to the channel lookup feature, which is to go to the program 
guide channel
 (channel 184 on Sirius) and listening for the channel name and 
number you
 want.  However, this isn't near as fast as it would be for 
sighted people to
 just look up the channel in the menu.  For example, one day I 
couldn't
 remember the channel number of a channel that I wanted to listen 
to, and
 went to the program guide channel, but had to wait for them to 
go through
 the whole programming lineup (probably a half an hour at least) 
just to hear
 the channel number for one channel, when I could have been 
listening to
 something far more interesting! Their Web site isn't accessible 
either, so
 they leave a lot to be desired for us, and when talking to tech 
support
 about this issue, it was as if I was talking to myself, as the 
guy was
 outsourced from India or somewhere and spoke very broken 
English.  So he had
 no idea what I was talking about.  I really hope the NFB acts on 
that
 resolution from last year, if we haven't done so already, and I 
just didn't
 know about it.

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real
 problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a
 blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness 
can be
 reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
 appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:17:33 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio

 A friend has the Starmate 4, bought at Radio Shack 4 years ago.  
He is total
 and says it's pretty friendly.
 Vince

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
 <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio


 Most of the satellite radio receivers are usable, that is you 
can move
 from channel to channel, go directly to a channel, and the like.  
However
 many of the features of the radios are not available to us.  
Each channel
 gives its number and name, each song and band are named, and 
some
 receivers have features to group things by genre etc.  There 
also may be
 menu-based settings for tone etc., which are not accessible.  I 
do not
 know of any satellite radio that turns the info on the display 
screen of
 the unit into speech or Braille.

 So, as I say they are usable, but not completely accessible.

 Dave

 At 07:31 PM 1/2/2012, you wrote:
 The receivers themselves are pretty accessible, I was asking 
about
 Internet radio.

 Chris

 Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real
 problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a
 blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness 
can be
 reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the 
Blind,
 1968-1986

 The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth 
in
 Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing 
assistive
 technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help 
them be
 equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the 
Foundation
 and to support our work, visit us online at 
www.icanfoundation.info!

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
 appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:13:02 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio

 At that time, I was told it was.  I don't know about now.
 The one thing I found annoying was, each time I signed in, I'd 
have to
 enter
 the code of a captcha.  And since I had no one sighted around to 
read it
 to
 me, That made me decide to forget it.  The verbal code never 
worked for me
 either.
 Again.  That was 3 years ago.  I haven't tried since so it may 
be
 different
 now.
 I have a friend that just got a sat radio for Christmas that is 
pretty
 accessible.  I'll ask him what the model is and share.
 Vince

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
 <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio


 Hi Vince,

 So the app is accessible?

 Chris

 Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real
 problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a
 blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness 
can be
 reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the 
Blind,
 1968-1986

 The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth 
in
 Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing 
assistive
 technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help 
them be
 equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the 
Foundation
 and to support our work, visit us online at 
www.icanfoundation.info!

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
 To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
 appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:08:24 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio

 I tried subscribing about 3 years ago and I had trouble getting 
it to work
 for me.  I was also disappointed when I found out that some 
shows weren't
 available online.  So I canceled and asked for a refund--which 
they said
 wasn't refundable.
 Hopefully they've changed.  I think most folks are using iPhones 
and other
 cellphones to listen to sat radio now.
 Vince

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "John Riehl" <realman02 at comcast.net
 To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
 <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM 
Internet Radio


 Chris, it's very nice to meet you.  Welcome to the list!
 I'm also interested in the question of XM on-line accessibility.

 I have never heard of Sirius XM Streamer, so I'd love to hear 
some
 comments
 on its accessibility.
 Again, welcome to the List, Chris -- and Happy New Year!
  John

 John Riehl

 -----Original Message-----
 From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris 
Nusbaum
 Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:54 PM
 To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
 Subject: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet 
Radio

 Hi everyone,

 First of all, I want to wish everyone on this list a very happy
 new year and say that I am new to this list! I'm 14 years old 
and
 am in 8th grade in public school here in Maryland.  You have
 probably seen me on other NFB lists, the NABS (National
 Association of Blind Students) or Blind Talk list, as I'm very
 active in the Federation.  With that said, I have a question
 about Sirius XM Internet radio and accessibility.  Has anyone
 found a work-around to using Sirius XM's online radio service
 with JAWS? It seems to be inaccessible to me, at least the one 
on
 siriusxm.com.  I have heard about a program called Sirius XM
 Streamer which makes the internet stream accessible.  But how
 does it work? Thanks for any help!

 Chris

 Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!


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