[Electronics-talk] OCR Scanners

Mon Jun 11 14:15:12 UTC 2012

I'm sure there are plenty of tasks requiring sighted assistance on the
Mac. Maybe it's the case that with this particular printer, you're
right, and it doesn't require any sighted assistance to set up the
printer and install the associated drivers and utilities on a Mac, but
your message doesn't indicate that. In fact, I think Gerald is probably
correct. Getting your all-in-one printer on the wireless network has
absolutely nothing to do with your PC or it's screen reader. You're just
making an exaggerated statement with no supporting information behind it
and an unfounded attack on software you don't use or apparently support.
Consequently, it's hard to put any stock into your statement at all.

IMHO, the Mac and Windows PC each have their own strengths and
weaknesses, which is also true for their respective screen readers. To
say that JAWS and Windows are outdated technologies just shows your
bias. I use Ubuntu and Orca everyday for almost 100% of my computer use,
but I wouldn't say that every other technology is outdated, even though
accessing wireless printers is a breeze compared to Windows.

IMHO, if I were a customer looking for whatever you're selling, I'd be
put off by your bias and your unfounded generalizations. That's just my
$0.02, and I don't mean to tell you how to run your business.

On 11/06/12 08:07, Gabe Vega wrote:
> excuse me chop chop. are you telling me I'd come on to a public list, and risk my credibility to potential customers that would  research me and say something so outlandish that I would lie about being able to install these? have you ever installed one of these on a mac? can you with definite positivity tell me it can't be done? are you so brain washed by jaws and windows that you can't believe that software is so much more accessible as a standard on Mac OS?. believe it buddy, it happens every day. this is why I use a mac.
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> On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:36 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
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>>
>> Excuse me, but all-in-one scanner/printer/copier/fax units that have LCD displays whit onscreen menus most definitely need sighted assistance to set up.  There is no way a blind person can navigate through the menu options displayed on these units' built-in screens.  There are no all-in-one units on the market that have built-in speech of their own, so it doesn't matter whether you are using a Mac or a Windows PC with JAWS; you still need sighted help.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] OCR Scanners
>>
>>
>>> I would just like to note for mac owners these set ups where you need sighted assistence with jaws are fully accessible with voiceover on the mac, I've set up several of these for my job and I have to say, I wonder why people keep themselves behind using such as outdated old day technology.
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>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Elizabeth Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I recently purchased the Epson Workforce 545 all-in-one unit, and i'm quite
>>>> happy with it.
>>>>
>>>> I bought it on sale from Best Buy for $99,and the sales clerk let me test it
>>>> with the K1000 software version 12 before I purchased the product.
>>>>
>>>> The initial printer setup and software installation, including setting up
>>>> the wireless features, requires sighted assistance. However, once everything
>>>> is installed, the Epson works quite nicely.
>>>>
>>>> I can even scan without having the machine connected to my computer which is
>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great day all.
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] OCR Scanners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Linda for what its worth I have had four or five scanners over the years
>>>>> and I think any flat bed scanner will do what you want.  It is the
>>>>> software that is the key I once had an HP deskjet all in one that worked
>>>>> fine right out of the box.  It even had its own OCR software and I just
>>>>> had to configure it to automatically do that.  The printing function
>>>>> wasn't that great though and used a lot of ink.  I have an Epson now and
>>>>> its software is not very accessible I can't install it myself at all but
>>>>> once it is ready I can use it better but I can only get it to do PDF
>>>>> format and it is not accessible PDF so then it has to be run through the
>>>>> other program to make it usable. scans great but I have to use it with OCR
>>>>> software such as openbook or K1000 the scanner is the cheep part of the
>>>>> deal.  I don't know if HP software is the same as it was but I've heard it
>>>>> is not but not sure.  Mind you it doesn't quite do all the things that
>>>>> openbook or K1000 does but it reads it just fine.
>>>>> Julie Phillipson
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Bloodsaw" <lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] OCR Scanners
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to buy a scanner in order to read my snail mail and other paper
>>>>>> documents.  I am asking for recommendations.  Thanks.
>>>>>>
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