[Electronics-talk] accessible TV shows and how do we fix ourTV's to get the audio?

Wed Jun 20 04:33:45 UTC 2012

I think you're preaching to the coir as I am a member of the National Federation of the Blind.

Being a member of a large group of blind people doesn't make treatment of the disabled equal.  

closed captioning for the deaf has been around forever, so has free TTY services and equipment.  

It's just taken them till now to get kicked in the butt to get audio description, and it's going to take till 2013 to get it fully running?  You call that equality?  

I live in a city with a lot of old buildings down town including old gothic churches, and they, because of the ADA have been forced to add onto their buildings ramps and elevators for those in wheelchairs, but they're gracing us with audio description by 2013, but we have to find someone who can see to flip on the ASAP switches for us because they can't be forced, like the closed captioning, and the elevators and ramps, to make them accessible.

I do get out there and fight for our rights.  I just don't have rose colored glasses, so to speak, on that we'll ever be treated equally by the general public or by the companies who handle cable, satellite, transportation, etc.

Again, you don't know that i'm in the Federation, and you don't know what I do to educate the public on blindness related issues or other issues that I deal with on a daily basis.

Please don't pass judgement or tell me to fight for things I'm already fighting for if you don't know the situation.

Jenny
On Jun 19, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I guess I don't follow the plight of other disabilities as much as some,
> but my impression is that each disability has it's challenges, and I
> don't fee like we're getting ignored more than any other disability.
> Don't forget, we'll be able to take advantage of the Telecommunications
> Act as much as any other disability if we work with our advocacy groups
> or file our own complaints with our cable company and the FCC. I'd
> suggest that if people really feel this strongly about the plight of the
> blind that they join one of the advocacy groups and lend their voice to
> others to help improve things.
> 
> On 18/06/12 23:08, cheez wrote:
>> Amen, Sista!
>> Vince
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] accessible TV shows and how do we fix
>> ourTV's to get the audio?
>> 
>> 
>>> You know,
>>> 
>>> I'm coming into this conversation a little late in the game, and maybe
>>> it's not politically correct, but if it were the deaf, or someone in a
>>> wheelchair and they were getting screwed as bad as we are, and left
>>> out of as much stuff as we do, you know there would be a putty party
>>> on the national news and every local news from here to hell and back
>>> about it.
>>> 
> 	>> Frankly, it really makes me furious about how much we get the shaft in
>>> this country.
>>> 
>>> I know, we have it better than most countries, but equal access should
>>> be equal access to disabled services regardless of what disability you
>>> have.
>>> 
>>> It has always felt to me, that in the good old United States, where
>>> all are supposed to be equal, blind people get the least amount of
>>> help and accessibility.
>>> 
>>> I don't mean to ruffle any feathers, but that's just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This whole situation is a real mess.  So the networks are going to
>>>> increase the number of prime time hours dedicated to audio described
>>>> programming. But if you are blind and you have cable TV or one of the
>>>> satellite providers, this is of little consolation because there is
>>>> no way to access the SAP channel unless you have sighted help to
>>>> navigate the onscreen menus of the converter box to turn it on or
>>>> off.  Presently, none of the cable or satellite providers has any
>>>> plans to offer accessible converter boxes, so once again, we blind
>>>> consumers are getting screwed over while the advocacy groups pat
>>>> themselves on the backs for increasing the amount of available audio
>>>> described programming. Imagine if the deaf had to rely strictly on
>>>> audible clues to turn the closed caption decoder on or off.  You can
>>>> bet their advocacy groups would scream bloody murder to the FCC.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] accessible TV shows and how do we fix our
>>>> TV's to get the audio?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As the subject says.  Most of the TV's menus are not accessible, so
>>>>> how will we get our TV's to the proper settings?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it is the SAP thing, you can't leave that on all the time,
>>>>> because if it's not available in audio description, it turns in to
>>>>> the spanish option.  besides, again, you can't access the menus by
>>>>> sight it you don't have any.
>>>>> 
>>>>> also, the article said that there would be symbols and sounds, well,
>>>>> the symbols is a stupid idea cause if you are blind, and/or visually
>>>>> impaired, how will you see the symbols?  that's kind of stupid in my
>>>>> opinion, the symbols thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds like they have a lot of bugs to get out before July first,
>>>>> and I've seen nothing on the networks saying anything about that,
>>>>> and believe me, I'm a TV junky.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JMO,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny
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