[Electronics-talk] Miniguide

Wed Dec 11 23:59:36 UTC 2013

I don't really care much one way or the other, and I never would have 
sent a message to the list just complaining about something being off 
topic. I also agree that with electronics creeping into more and more 
things, and hopefully as more things become accessible off the shelf, 
this list should have a pretty lenient approach to what is and is not on 
topic.

I guess the question about whether washing machines are on topic for the 
list depends on whether you consider them electronic or not. Seems like 
electronics is creeping into them though. Thermostats seem pretty 
electronic to me and their are definitely accessible off the shelf 
thermostats out there, so that seems like a no brainer.

Maybe this Mini guide is an off the shelf product not intended to be 
used exclusively by the blind, but it seemed like a mobility aid for the 
blind to me, which would make it off topic for this list, as I 
understand it.

As I said, a lenient approach to what is and is not on topic for this 
list is appropriate in my opinion, but I did join the list to hear about 
accessible off the shelf consumer electronics. If the purpose of the 
list is pointless and anything becomes on topic then it becomes a less 
valuable resource. If I have to sift through too many off topic posts to 
find news on accessible off the shelf consumer electronics then I'll 
just unsubscribe and get my news elsewhere. No big deal to me.

As I said, I'm not the moderator, and I'll defer to their judgment.

On 12/11/2013 05:43 PM, Sandy wrote:
> Christopher,
>
> In my opinion, I think some of us get too picky about what is supposed
> to be on this list.  If it is okay to ask about the accessibility of
> washers, dryers, thermostats, etc. what is wrong with discussing the
> mini guide?
>
>
> Sandy
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:37 PM
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Miniguide
>
>> A few other thoughts, ....
>>
>> It's probably a good practice to provide this type of information when
>> posting a question about a device or an application that may not be
>> familiar to everyone. It'll help get better answers more quickly, and
>> it'll cut down on list traffic.
>>
>> If I see something mentioned I don't recognize, I'll either look it up
>> in Google, as Jim suggests, or I'll just hit the delete key. I think
>> the original poster has some responsibility here, see my previous
>> point, and I don't always have the time to decipher a poorly thought
>> out post.
>>
>> Finally, it's not my list, but this doesn't seem on topic for this
>> list. I haven't been paying too much attention, but there seems to be
>> a lot of off topic posts to this list lately, and I'm sure I'm guilty
>> of this myself somewhat.
>>
>> On 12/11/2013 05:24 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>> I really don't want to seem snarky, but Google is your friend for
>>> questions like this.  I typed in "miniguide blind" and got good
>>> information.
>>>
>>> http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopminiguide.htm
>>>
>>> The short version is...
>>>
>>> Detect obstacles in the palm of your hand with the 2 ounce ultrasonic
>>> Miniguide.
>>>
>>> Augment information from other mobility aids, like the cane or dog
>>> guide,with obstacle-detection by the Miniguide from 1.5 to 26 feet.
>>>
>>> The Miniguide is 3 inches long, 1.4 inches wide and .75 inches thick
>>> including the single 123A battery. Two sensors covered by mesh at the
>>> front of the unit send and receive the detection signals. Durable
>>> plastic casing covers the rest of the unit.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 05:16:02PM -0600, Snow White Dove wrote:
>>>> I’m sorry if I sound ignorant, but what is a mini guide?
>>>>
>>>> I’ve never heard of it before.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone give me some info on it.  It can be short and sweet
>>>> and it can even be off list if necessary or preferable.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for understanding my ignorance about electronics of that sort.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Clark <sarah at sarahaclark.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I am about to purchase a Miniguide, and I have a question for
>>>>> anyone who has one. I know that in addition to the regular
>>>>> Miniguide, there is also a Miniguide US version made by APH, and
>>>>> the US version costs almost $200 more, so I am trying to figure out
>>>>> if the US version is worth the additional cost?  From what I
>>>>> understand, they both do the same thing, the US version just gives
>>>>> quicker access to some of the functions by adding a second button.
>>>>> But the regular Miniguide sounds completely usable to me. I am
>>>>> wondering if people find the US version worthwhile over the regular
>>>>> version, and if there is some other benefit to the US version that
>>>>> I may be overlooking?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sarah
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