[Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges

Sun Jan 27 00:40:36 UTC 2013

Hi, thanks for the info about the additional PenFriend labels.  I already
use them.  My issue is that I do not find it practical to carry the
PenFriend around with me all day and night through the house.  I need one
for upstairs and one for downstairs.  

I've adhered many of the labels to 3 by 5 index cards and attach the cards
in various ways to all types of things.  This allows me to reuse the label.
One example of this is labels for the many boxes of teabags in the cabinet.
We rarely by the same type time after time.  When the box empties I remove
the index card label and re use it on the new box with the info for that
box.  Another example is using a paperclip to put the label on a piece of
mail that I need to address with my husband or do some other type of
follow-up for it.  Again when I complete that task I can either record a new
label with what I did, add a second label if I do not want to lose the info
from the original label, or remove the label so that it can be reused.  I'm
thinking about putting the PenFriend labels on my washer so that I can be
reminded of what each button does.  But then I would need to remember to
carry the PenFriend to the basement as I am not going to consider a 3rd
unit.

Annette

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Kendra Schaber
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:47 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges

Hi Annette, I'm sure that you can order more labels for the Pen Friend. I
have a friend who has tried one and she gave me a demo of it before she
explored what's called a Voice Memo which is the Pen Friend's brother if you
will. The Voice Memo is very similar to the Pen Friend but you can record
notes with it and it has its own memory. Feel free to call up the
manufacturer and look into the extra labels for the Pen Friend. I don't have
their number. You could use the extra labels for upstairs instead of buying
another Pen Friend. I hope it will help you!
Kendra
----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges

>I agree, these days you are going to have to put some type of 
>accessible  labeling on your appliances.  I had to get sighted 
>assistance to add  braille  dymo tape labels to my dishwasher, 
>microwave, refrigerator, and oven  controls.  I have the Whirlpool Duet 
>washer and dryer and have not needed  to  label them.  There are 
>however some buttons that I cannot remember what  they  do, which is 
>annoying.
>
> If you do not read braille and you are not sharing your appliances 
> with sighted household members, I'm wondering if the PenFriend would 
> be helpful.
> You could apply a small round PenFriend label to each button on the 
> "static"
> flat panel control and record a message about that button.  Of course 
> this would require that you have your PenFriend handy, but I'm finding 
> that I'm using mine most often in the kitchen and might need to get a 
> second one for upstairs.  Just my 2 cents.
>
> Annette
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Donahue
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:55 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>
> Hello Matt and everyone,
>
> I agree. When we got our first microwave with a digital screen and no 
> dials, my parents were visiting so they helped me label it. When we 
> moved into this townhome, our oven with built-in microwave oven did 
> not have buttons, either. A daughter of one of the Lions Club members 
> helped me label the oven, among other things. We have a small 
> microwave at the present time that has no dials, and I plan to get 
> someone to label it as soon as possible. There is no way of avoiding 
> putting on Braille labels these days.
> Get used to it!
> Mary Donahue
>
> "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch."
> Garrison Keillor
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:23 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>
> Hello Matt and everyone,
>
>    I'm going to ask Mary to come in on this discussion. Since she's on 
> this list she'll see this thread. We removed the trial and error 
> aspect by having a sighted person help us label the appliances. One 
> problem solved. We try to get our hands on appliances with traditional 
> controls but realize that until manufactures are required to make all 
> appliances accessible and usable by the blind labeling them with 
> assistance is the best way to go.
>
>    I seriously doubt that simply affixing a Braille label to a control 
> area on an appliance will void any warranty. It's not like you're 
> trying to dissect the thing. It's when you attempt to repair them 
> yourself that you run the risk of voiding a warranty. And if it 
> happened report it to the NFB's legal staff as such behavior by an 
> appliance manufacturer would give us additional ammunission to insist 
> on the adoption of legislation to insure that home appliances and 
> electronics are 100% accessible too and usable by the blind.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>
>
> Yes, that's the problem - lots of time/trial and error in labeling.  
> And sometimes, marking up a new item may void the warranty.  Ideas,
anyone?
> Have been researching this for over a week now with few decent 
> results.--Matthew Chao
>
> At 10:37 AM 1/26/2013, you wrote:
>>Good morning Matt and everyone,
>>
>>     Marking up the controls with lock dots and/or Braille labels will 
>>most likely be your only solution. We had the same issue with our 
>>microwave and range ovens. Placing Braille labels over the areas where 
>>the controls are was the only way we could make them usable by a blind 
>>person. We recently had a new microwave given to us and need to have 
>>it labeled. Here's hoping you can find a range that will work for you 
>>and
> require minimal labeling.
>>
>>Peter Donahue
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
>>To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:26 AM
>>Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>>
>>
>>Hi, Folks.  I need to get a new stove for my house.  In looking 
>>around, I've had a tough time finding accessible stoves, primarily 
>>because the oven displays are of clear plastic with no textured labels 
>>or bubble-like membrane buttons.  Controls need to be in the front.  
>>Read articles about accessible appliances at the AFB Web site, but 
>>still no luck.  Any ideas?  I'm not eager to mark up displays with 
>>those plastic dots or have to take a long time to do up Dymo tape 
>>labels.  Any help would be appreciated in finding an accessible stove.  
>>Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>>
>>.
>>
>>
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