[Electronics-talk] ACCESSIBLE TABLETS/NETBOOKS

Sat Mar 23 03:38:26 UTC 2013

A few more corrections to Jude's email.

Android 2.3 Ginger Bread was a cell phone only version of Android. 
Android 3.0 Honeycomb was probably the version of Android running on the 
tablet being referred to.

Talk Back started being included with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. 
This was the version where you'd draw a square to activate Talk Back. 
Android 4.1 Jellybean changed this gesture to just holding two fingers 
on the screen.

Windows tablets do not run a cut down version of Windows CE. They run 
Windows 8 in the case of the Surface Pro and Windows RT in the case of 
the Surface. They both come with Narrator, and although I haven't used 
it myself, it's a more robust Narrator than you see in Windows 7.

On 03/22/2013 09:45 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> The Microsoft Surface does have narrator on it.  You may or may not
> like how ot works, but it is there.
>
> The Nexus tabllets (7 and 10) both come with jellybean, so no upgrade
> is required.  Also, if you hold two separated fingers on the screen
> while booting the nexus, talkback will start.  No need to have someone
> else set it up for you.
>
> While nook has accessible software running on iDevices, Kindle has no
> such option.  There is the windows version of the Kindle software
> which offers some accessibility.
>
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:33:32PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> Proprietary book readers outside of Apple (hardware versions) from what
>> I've read remain inaccessible.  Use of kindle and nook software on an
>> accessible device is likely as close to accessible as you'll get with
>> them.  Windows tablets don't have narrator installed on them and since
>> most run a cut down version of windows ce on them they can't run
>> narrator in any event.  Accessible android tablets can be had only if
>> you have the operating system version taken up to at least Jellybean 4.1
>> at the place where you buy them and have the installer draw a square on
>> the screen with their finger before you buy the tablet.  That drawing
>> and operating system upgrade turns on all the accessibility features
>> including talkback which  you will need.  I almost bought an android
>> tablet this past Christmas Holiday but it had Gingerbread on it and the
>> person that was selling didn't know if the tablet could be upgraded to
>> jellybean at the time so I ended up with an IPhone 4s.
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Kendra Schaber wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know much about the other smart phones nor the Windows tabblets. I do
>>> know that Ibooks is accessable with Voice Over. Speaking of Voice Over, Voice
>>> Over makes the iphone compleetly accessable as long as the apps that you get
>>> for it are accessable. Voice Over makes the Apple computer and the ipad
>>> accessable.
>>> Kendra
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett"
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] ACCESSIBLE TABLETS/NETBOOKS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Along those same lines, I know the ipad is accessible with voiceover.
>>>> But are windows tablets accessible? I don't know if the basic screen reader,
>>>> Narrator,
>>>> works on tablets. Also, is any of the book readers accessible? Obviously,
>>>> kindle is not. But there are SonyReader and NookReader out there and maybe
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Ashley
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Anita Ogletree
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] ACCESSIBLE TABLETS/NETBOOKS
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever used a tablet or netbook? If so, was it
>>>> accessible? I found some reasonable ones on Amazon.
>>>>
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>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> jude <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers?
>>
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