[Electronics-talk] Electronics-talk Digest, Vol 85, Issue 6
Linda Ward
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> 1. Re (Laz Mesa)
> 2. Re: iPod shuffle 4th gen (Laz Mesa)
> 3. Re: free screen reader review inthebraile monitor (David Andrews)
> 4. card readers (Lauren Merryfield)
> 5. Re: card readers (Jude DaShiell)
> 6. Re: card readers (Linda Bloodsaw)
> 7. Re: card readers (Darla Rogers)
> 8. Re: card readers (Gerald Levy)
> 9. Re: iPod shuffle 4th gen (Tracy Carcione)
> 10. Re: free screen reader review in thebraile monitor
> (Baracco, Andrew W)
> 11. Re: free screen reader review inthebraile monitor
> (Baracco, Andrew W)
> 12. Re: free screen reader review inthebraile monitor
> (Baracco, Andrew W)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 14:25:55 -0400
> From: Laz Mesa <lazaro6 at gmail.com>
> To: electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Re
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> --
> Affordably priced Talking MP3 Players with FM radio, voice recording,
> and expandable memory! Priced As low as $69.99, plus free shipping in
> the US!
>
> Listen to our presentation:
> http://www.talkingmp3players.com/demo.html
>
> See our current special:
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> No contract, Option to bring your own phone!
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 14:30:27 -0400
> From: Laz Mesa <lazaro6 at gmail.com>
> To: electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
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> Not large at all Drew.
>
> The Clip Zip measures 2.25 x 1.42 x 0.58 inches, and it's predecessor
> the Clip Plus measures 2.16 x 1.36 x 0.6 in. Also no need for iTunes
> just copy and paste.
>
> Laz
>
> From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> ? ? ? ? <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
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>
> Laz,
> I've looked into the players that your company sells and just trying to
> decide what's the best. I looked at the shuffle on the apple site and it
> says it has a voice over button and a button on the unit which controls the
> functions of the player. The reason I'm looking into the shuffle is because
> of the small size for using to work out. how large are the units you sell?
> thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Laz Mesa
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:53 AM
> To: electronics-talk
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
>
> I'm on the digest and haven't seen an answer to your question Drew, so i'll
> let you know what I recall hearing about the iPod Shuffle. As far as I'm
> aware, it only reads the artist and track title, and I'm not sure it has
> menus as such. The controls are built in on the ear buds.
> It does sound like it's quite limited in function and scope. If anyone has
> more recent/accurate information, by all means, speak up.
>
> If you're interested in an affordable accessible MP3 player, take a listen
> to either one or both of the below podcasts.
>
> Main Menu
> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/talking-mp3-players-with-rockbox-laz-mesa-int
> erviewed-by-rich-cavallaro/
>
> SeroTalk
> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/rockboxed-sansa-clip-zip-talking-mp3-player-p
> resentation/
>
> All the best,
>
> Laz
>
> From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> To: "electronics list" <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
> Message-ID: <000901ce4833$6f6009e0$4e201da0$@com>
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> Dear list,
>
> Does the iPod shuffle 4th gen have voice over capability for the menus and
> operations? thanks
>
>
>
> Drew Hunthausen 714 296-7111
>
>
> --
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> and expandable memory! Priced As low as $69.99, plus free shipping in
> the US!
>
> Listen to our presentation:
> http://www.talkingmp3players.com/demo.html
>
> See our current special:
> http://www.talkingmp3players.com/specials.html
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> Join our mailing list by sending a blank email to:
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> New web page in progress:
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> Unlimited Quality 4G Cell Service only $49 per month
> No contract, Option to bring your own phone!
> Works with the new Google Galaxy Nexus!
>
> Contact info:
> Email: accessibleelectronics at gmail.com
> Skype: lazmesa
> Phone: 727 498-0121
> Facebook: facebook.com/laz.mesa
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 17:29:24 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review inthebraile
> monitor
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> Jim is right -- discussion of screen readers is off topic for this
> list. Please take to appropriate list, like gui-talk.
>
> David Andrews, Moderator
>
>
> >Sorry David, I stayed out as long as I could <frustrated grin>.
> >Folks, this really isn't the right list for this conversation. It
> >really does make life better for all of us if you post computer
> >related items, such as free screen reviews, on the nfbcs list.
> >
> >However, here we are and here we go.
> >
> >First off, Interested folks might want to read the docs from Freedom
> >Scientific. They weren't hard to find. I just searched for thumb
> >drive on Freedom's web site.
> >
> >Here is the link I found.
> >
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-MAGic-usb-drive.asp
> >
> >I'll point out that you can't just run jaws off the thumb drive like
> >you can with NVDA. JAWS requires that you install the video intercept
> >drivers on the machine first. This is a non-starter in a lot of
> >environments.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 11:02:56AM -0500, Marsha wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > While Jaws has a thumb drive, don't they restrict how many computers you
> > > can put Jaws on?
> > >
> > > Marsha
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 19:36:55 -0700
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> Message-ID: <3BB2E44683C547C0AB0A1C47799D7338 at homec1f191e91c>
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> Hi,
> Are card readers accessible? A couple of the apt complexes I visited had card readers in their laundry rooms. I couldn't tell if they were something we could use or not. You put money on a card in one machine and then put the card in the washer or dryer and it takes the amount of money.
> Thanks
> Lauren
> "Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and opportunity
> is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed, do not squander
> your life."
> ~Dogen Zenji
> Join us at www.catlines.com
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 03:50:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.BSF.2.01.1305060344570.24789 at freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Lots of possibilities here. If you can put the cards into the machines
> any way at all and they still work those will be accessible.
> If the cards have to go into the machines only one way but can be put in
> four possible ways and there is no way to tell by touch which is the
> correct way to do it those cards aren't accessible.
> If the cards fit into the machine only one possible way then they'll be
> accessible.
> If the cards can fit into the machines four possible ways but it's
> possible to tell by touch which way to insert them, they'll be
> accessible after some assistance.
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2013, Lauren Merryfield wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Are card readers accessible? A couple of the apt complexes I visited had card readers in their laundry rooms. I couldn't tell if they were something we could use or not. You put money on a card in one machine and then put the card in the washer or dryer and it takes the amount of money.
> > Thanks
> > Lauren
> > "Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and opportunity
> > is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed, do not squander
> > your life."
> > ~Dogen Zenji
> > Join us at www.catlines.com
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> jude <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> About to block another web browser version? Ask yourself what Tim
> Berners-lee would do.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 04:25:39 -0400
> From: Linda Bloodsaw <lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> Message-ID: <35926C17-ADD9-4273-8413-0B60E14254A8 at gmail.com>
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>
> The machine used to load money onto the card probably won't be accessible. I used a kiosk type machine at a laundromat before and someone had to load money onto the card for me.
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net> wrote:
>
> > Lots of possibilities here. If you can put the cards into the machines
> > any way at all and they still work those will be accessible.
> > If the cards have to go into the machines only one way but can be put in
> > four possible ways and there is no way to tell by touch which is the
> > correct way to do it those cards aren't accessible.
> > If the cards fit into the machine only one possible way then they'll be
> > accessible.
> > If the cards can fit into the machines four possible ways but it's
> > possible to tell by touch which way to insert them, they'll be
> > accessible after some assistance.
> >
> > On Sun, 5 May 2013, Lauren Merryfield wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Are card readers accessible? A couple of the apt complexes I visited had card readers in their laundry rooms. I couldn't tell if they were something we could use or not. You put money on a card in one machine and then put the card in the washer or dryer and it takes the amount of money.
> >> Thanks
> >> Lauren
> >> "Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and opportunity
> >> is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed, do not squander
> >> your life."
> >> ~Dogen Zenji
> >> Join us at www.catlines.com
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > jude <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> > About to block another web browser version? Ask yourself what Tim
> > Berners-lee would do.
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 06:21:09 -0500
> From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> Message-ID: <000101ce4a4b$cf8ab620$6ea02260$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I was wondering if the cards can be marked, so one is mucking about trying
> to figure out which way the cards go into the machines.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Lauren Merryfield
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:37 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] card readers
>
> Hi,
> Are card readers accessible? A couple of the apt complexes I visited had
> card readers in their laundry rooms. I couldn't tell if they were something
> we could use or not. You put money on a card in one machine and then put
> the card in the washer or dryer and it takes the amount of money.
> Thanks
> Lauren
> "Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and
> opportunity is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed,
> do not squander your life."
> ~Dogen Zenji
> Join us at www.catlines.com
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 07:47:52 -0400
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> Message-ID: <D6BF5F24B4FF425C9CD68F02855052D7 at glevy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
>
> We have a laundry card vending machine in the laundry room of my apartment
> complex, but it is totally inaccessible without sighted help. And the
> washers and dryers have touchpad controls which are also inaccessible. I
> have mentioned this to the building manager, but he just laughs.
> Apparently, there is no law that requires landlords to install accessible
> laundry card vending machines or accessible washers and dryers. And even if
> the ADA did require such accomodations, who would enforce them? Besides, it
> is my understanding that nobody even manufactures accessible laundry card
> vending machines. Here in New York City, the local transit agency has
> gotten away with installing inaccessible Metrocard vending machines for
> years with total impunity. It is cheaper for them to pay nominal fines for
> noncompliance with the ADA than to install accessible vending machines. I
> guess you just can't win.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] card readers
>
>
> >I was wondering if the cards can be marked, so one is mucking about trying
> > to figure out which way the cards go into the machines.
> > Darla
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Lauren Merryfield
> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:37 PM
> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] card readers
> >
> > Hi,
> > Are card readers accessible? A couple of the apt complexes I visited had
> > card readers in their laundry rooms. I couldn't tell if they were
> > something
> > we could use or not. You put money on a card in one machine and then put
> > the card in the washer or dryer and it takes the amount of money.
> > Thanks
> > Lauren
> > "Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and
> > opportunity is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take
> > heed,
> > do not squander your life."
> > ~Dogen Zenji
> > Join us at www.catlines.com
> > _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 11:32:20 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
> Message-ID: <470af34b5bb2e85819d490b92c7a26dc.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>
> I looked at the Shuffle and the Clip Zip, and I got the Clip Zip, because
> it has a whole lot more memory for the money. As I recall, the Shuffle
> had 2 or 4 GB for the price I paid for 64 GB or more.
> I also think the battery life may be better; mine lasts about 10 hours.
> Tracy
>
> > Not large at all Drew.
> >
> > The Clip Zip measures 2.25 x 1.42 x 0.58 inches, and it's predecessor
> > the Clip Plus measures 2.16 x 1.36 x 0.6 in. Also no need for iTunes
> > just copy and paste.
> >
> > Laz
> >
> > From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> > To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> > ? ? ? ? <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
> > Message-ID: <001601ce48f9$a3f08ab0$ebd1a010$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; ? ? ? charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Laz,
> > I've looked into the players that your company sells and just trying to
> > decide what's the best. I looked at the shuffle on the apple site and it
> > says it has a voice over button and a button on the unit which controls
> > the
> > functions of the player. The reason I'm looking into the shuffle is
> > because
> > of the small size for using to work out. how large are the units you sell?
> > thanks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Laz Mesa
> > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:53 AM
> > To: electronics-talk
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
> >
> > I'm on the digest and haven't seen an answer to your question Drew, so
> > i'll
> > let you know what I recall hearing about the iPod Shuffle. As far as I'm
> > aware, it only reads the artist and track title, and I'm not sure it has
> > menus as such. The controls are built in on the ear buds.
> > It does sound like it's quite limited in function and scope. If anyone has
> > more recent/accurate information, by all means, speak up.
> >
> > If you're interested in an affordable accessible MP3 player, take a listen
> > to either one or both of the below podcasts.
> >
> > Main Menu
> > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/talking-mp3-players-with-rockbox-laz-mesa-int
> > erviewed-by-rich-cavallaro/
> >
> > SeroTalk
> > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/rockboxed-sansa-clip-zip-talking-mp3-player-p
> > resentation/
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Laz
> >
> > From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> > To: "electronics list" <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] iPod shuffle 4th gen
> > Message-ID: <000901ce4833$6f6009e0$4e201da0$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; ? ? ? charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Does the iPod shuffle 4th gen have voice over capability for the menus and
> > operations? thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Drew Hunthausen 714 296-7111
> >
> >
> > --
> > Affordably priced Talking MP3 Players with FM radio, voice recording,
> > and expandable memory! Priced As low as $69.99, plus free shipping in
> > the US!
> >
> > Listen to our presentation:
> > http://www.talkingmp3players.com/demo.html
> >
> > See our current special:
> > http://www.talkingmp3players.com/specials.html
> >
> > Join our mailing list by sending a blank email to:
> > RockboxedSansaTalkingMP3Players-subscribe at yahoogroups.com
> >
> > New web page in progress:
> > http://www.talkingmp3players.com/accessible-phones.html
> >
> > Unlimited Quality 4G Cell Service only $49 per month
> > No contract, Option to bring your own phone!
> > Works with the new Google Galaxy Nexus!
> >
> > Contact info:
> > Email: accessibleelectronics at gmail.com
> > Skype: lazmesa
> > Phone: 727 498-0121
> > Facebook: facebook.com/laz.mesa
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 08:39:49 -0700
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> There is also System Access from Serotek, which is about half the price
> of Window Eyes, and its web based brother Satogo, which is free.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:40 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review in thebraile
> monitor
>
> yes there are. One other thing about this review it slams the high
> cost of other screen readers such as window eyes did it state that GW
> Micro has a $39 a month payment plan for it's screen readers no! that's
> misleading the reader.
> On 5/5/2013 10:27 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
> > I have NVDA on my computer and they deserve a lot of credit for what
> > they have done. However, two of the major things I use at work don't
> work with NVDA but work with Window-Eyes and JFW. There are gaps.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> >
> > On Sat, 4 May 2013 19:39:44 -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >
> >> Being a Mac user who simply will not install windows on his machine,
> >> I must say-never the less-that if ever I were to touch windows again,
>
> >> it would be
> > with NVDA and no other!!
> >
> >
> >> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind built-in!
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >> On May 4, 2013, at 6:08 PM, The weird writer
> <weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I am not sure if you have seen this but below is a free screen
> reader review in the braile monitor about NVDA.
> >>>
> >>> https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1305/bm130507.htm
> >>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 08:42:14 -0700
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review inthebraile
> monitor
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> You can get System Access on a thumb drive, and if the PC you want to
> use has internet access, you can use Satogo.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:13 AM
> To: Frida Aizenman; Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review inthebraile
> monitor
>
> window eyes does I think.
> On 5/5/2013 11:10 AM, Frida Aizenman wrote:
> > Think of this scenario,:
> > you need to make a presentation at a national convention, but wish to
> > travel light and not take your laptop and drag it through the airport
> > security, with the possibility of having it damaged, or the
> > possibility of losing parts of it, and you want to use hotel's
> > equipment which they provide.
> > it seems to me that NVDA is the solution because you can put it on a
> > thumb drive and any computer will work.
> > I find it interesting that, for accessibility purposes Freedom
> > Scientific doesn't let you put their paid screen reader on a thumb
> drive.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson"
> > <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review in thebraile
>
> > monitor
> >
> >
> >> I have NVDA on my computer and they deserve a lot of credit for what
> >> they have done. However, two of the major things I use at work don't
>
> >> work with
> >> NVDA but work with Window-Eyes and JFW. There are gaps.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Steve Jacobson
> >>
> >> On Sat, 4 May 2013 19:39:44 -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Being a Mac user who simply will not install windows on his machine,
>
> >>> I must say-never the less-that if ever I were to touch windows
> >>> again, it would be
> >> with NVDA and no other!!
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >>> blind built-in!
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >>
> >>> On May 4, 2013, at 6:08 PM, The weird writer
> >>> <weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I am not sure if you have seen this but below is a free screen
> >>>> reader review in the braile monitor about NVDA.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1305/bm130507.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> and here is the Mp3 version.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/audio/braille_monitor/2013/may/09_my_sear
> ch_for_accessibility.mp3
> >>>>
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> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 08:43:34 -0700
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review inthebraile
> monitor
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> But I believe that you have to load the video intercept onto the machine
> you want to use first.
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:19 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review inthebraile
> monitor
>
> According to
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-MAGic-usb-drive.asp
>
> there has been a thumb drive version of JFW since JAWS 7.
>
> On 05/05/2013 10:13 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
> > window eyes does I think.
> > On 5/5/2013 11:10 AM, Frida Aizenman wrote:
> >> Think of this scenario,:
> >> you need to make a presentation at a national convention, but wish to
> >> travel light and not take your laptop and drag it through the airport
> >> security, with the possibility of having it damaged, or the
> >> possibility of losing parts of it, and you want to use hotel's
> >> equipment which they provide.
> >> it seems to me that NVDA is the solution because you can put it on a
> >> thumb drive and any computer will work.
> >> I find it interesting that, for accessibility purposes Freedom
> >> Scientific doesn't let you put their paid screen reader on a thumb
> drive.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson"
> >> <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:27 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] free screen reader review in
> thebraile
> >> monitor
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have NVDA on my computer and they deserve a lot of credit for what
> >>> they have done. However, two of the major things I use at work
> don't
> >>> work with
> >>> NVDA but work with Window-Eyes and JFW. There are gaps.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Steve Jacobson
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 4 May 2013 19:39:44 -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Being a Mac user who simply will not install windows on his
> machine,
> >>>> I must say-never the less-that if ever I were to touch windows
> >>>> again, it would be
> >>> with NVDA and no other!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >>>> blind built-in!
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >>>
> >>>> On May 4, 2013, at 6:08 PM, The weird writer
> >>>> <weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I am not sure if you have seen this but below is a free screen
> >>>>> reader review in the braile monitor about NVDA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1305/bm130507.htm
> >>>>>
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