[Electronics-talk] TV with Easily accessible AudioDescribedprogramming.

[Ray Foret jr]

With all due respect, or what ever, Comcast is going to make this speech output available on the X2 platform when it comes out early next year.  Despite the fact that I have given you a video proving that you are wrong and some progress is being made, you continue to say it's no good.  Well, quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of you and you are being blocked!!!  All you ever do is put down every little bit of beginning progress and say it's no good.  How is that helping things just because you don't have it all right now you say it's no good.  Even the little you have now had to be started by someone sometime.  I am so annoyed with you that I'm blocking you from my in box.  IF all you can do is tear people and stuff down, then, I will have no more of you at all what so ever!!


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:02 PM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> This podcast merely demonstrated a prototype of a possible future cable box design.  It did not demonstrate the features of a cable box that is available right now to Comcast customers, nor did it offer "proof" that the introduction of such a device is imminent.  Indeed, nowhere in the podcast did I hear the Comcast rep mention when this talking cable box would become available to any blind or disabled customer who requests one.  I can tell you that Time Warner, the cable provider that I am stuck with has no plans to offer such a talking cable box in the foreseeable future.  Nor will they be forced to do so.  Last month, they blacked out CBS for millions of their customers over a contract dispute despite the fact that the FCC "must carry" rule requires them to provide all local, over-the-air channels to their customers.  Was Time Warner punished for its egregious action?  Of course not, because the FCC is totally inept and ineffectual as a regulatory agency.  So if Time Warner and its other cable rivals fail to comply with the new FCC rules that require them to offer accessible cable boxes, what is going to happen?  Are they going to be fined?  Maybe, but not likely.  Are their executives going to face criminal prosecution for violating the civil rights of their blind and disabled customers?  Of course not.  So excuse me if you find my cynicism annoying.  Remember all the hoopla over the Insignia Narrator talking HD radio when it was first demonstrated last year?  I skeptically predicted that it would be discontinued within a year.  How did that work out?  Did Best Buy make any kind of concerted effort to find a new manufacturer for this product when the original one decided to stop making it?  I don't think so.  And Panasonic demonstrated a prototype of a TV with talking menus in Europe a few years ago, but it never became available in the US, and earlier this year  it announced plans to exit the consumer electronics market altogether. Have any other manufactures demonstrated TV sets with talking menus in this country?  I am not aware of any.   We blind consumers have been screwed over too many times before, so I see no reason to believethat things will be any different this time around.  Sorry, but I have to tell it like it is.  And if you find my messages annoying, simply hit the delete key on your precious Mac.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] TV with Easily accessible AudioDescribedprogramming.
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> 
>> You are wrong, and, frankly, starting to annoy me!!!  In your message, you say, in part:
>> 
>> :The idea that accessible set-top boxes and TV's are coming soon thanks to FCC rules adopted a few years ago is sheer fantasy.  It just ain't gonna happen".
>> 
>> Oh yeah?  Well, you are wrong.   here is proof!
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNTL-3fj6HI
>> 
>> Your constant negativism is getting on my very last nerve.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> This seems to be the Holy Grail of home electronic devices for blind consumers like us.  I have yet to find a flat panel LcD or plasma TV that has a dedicated button on the remote control for turning the SAP channel on and off.  They all require navigating through a bunch of onscreen menus to accomplish this, which, of course, requires sighted help.  And if you have cable or satellite TV like most of us, it doesn't matter whether the TV itself has an easy way to turn SAP on and off because the SAP channel is sent by the provider and controlled by the set-top box, which, again requires sighted help to navigate its onscreen menus.  The idea that accessible set-top boxes and TV's are coming soon thanks to FCC rules adopted a few years ago is sheer fantasy.  It just ain't gonna happen.  When I ask the customer service reps at Time Warner Cable when they will have a blind accessible cable box available, they just start muttering huh,and what's that.  So if accessible boxes ever become
>> available , nobody at the cable companies will be aware of them anyway. Such are the travails of being a blind consumer in the 21st century.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Cassell" <ApolloSeven at Earthlink.net>
>>> To: <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:47 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] TV with Easily accessible Audio Describedprogramming.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a new TV.  It must have a very easily accessible SAP (second audio program) feature for being able to easily access audio described programming.
>>>> 
>>>> Does such a thing exist?  If so, what is it, and where can I buy it?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>>>> 
>>>> -- George
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