[Electronics-talk] Disagreements Have a Price

Sandy sandraburgess at msn.com
Sun Jan 5 04:03:55 UTC 2014


Peter,

I propose another more peaceful option:  agree to disagree.


Sandy

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From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:37 PM
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Electronics-talk] Disagreements Have a Price

> Good afternoon,
>
>        If you wish to disagree be prepared to pay the price for doing so. 
> Our advice is not to follow in the footsteps of those who did this and 
> became less than they could have become had they been totally committed to 
> the mission of the NFB and explored all career options with an open mind. 
> Now let's continue this discussion on the Nabentre List. Dave and others 
> will appreciate it.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sandy" <sandraburgess at msn.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] 
> Telework/workfromhome/workvirtually/telecommute?
>
>
> Jenny,
>
> Thanks for what you posted; I do agree with you.  We shouldn't all have to
> have the same opinion, nor should we have to totally agree with the NFB.
>
>
> Sandy
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Telework/work
> fromhome/workvirtually/telecommute?
>
>> Look, I don’t feel like I should have to go and spend GOD knows how long 
>> at an NFB center.  Then relocate cause they don’t have anything in my 
>> area.
>>
>> sorry, I don’t believe or agree that the NFB is the be all and end all.
>>
>> I have done my research.  I know of what I speak of.
>>
>> Don’t give me a lecture about that crap cause it do’t fly with me.
>>
>> I bust it all the time trying to find legitimate work.  Sorry if I don’t 
>> live up to NFB cultish belief that if you’re not working or don’t go to 
>> their blessed raining facilities and relocate to wherever in the country 
>> to work that I’m nothing.
>>
>> Sorry, I don’t play that way.
>>
>> I don’t appreciate being spoken to that way.  I did fall through the 
>> cracks in the public school system.  That wasn’t my fault.
>>
>> I begged my parents to send me to a school for the blind but that didn’t 
>> happen.  I taught myself braille when I was 26 years old without any help 
>> thank you.
>>
>> If someone can speak to me that way, I can let you know my story and dish 
>> it out too.
>>
>> Jenny
>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good evening everyone,
>>>
>>>   Don't take a job where you have to pay for something to work or become 
>>> financially independent? No. Beg your state V.R. agency to send you to 
>>> school so you can work life's 50-year plan and at the end of the day end 
>>> up back in the crap hole. We'll work the 2 to 5 year plan any day and be 
>>> able to buy our own access technology, pay for training at an NFB 
>>> center, being able to contribute more to the work of the NFB, the list 
>>> goes on.
>>>
>>>   Finally before you ever slam any type of work or business opportunity 
>>> a word to the wise is to investigate it's credibility before taking the 
>>> plunge and be sure that the sources of information are reliable. The 
>>> Internet is a great place to obtain information about employment and 
>>> business opportunities but it can also be a source of much 
>>> misinformation such as that contained in the quotes below. Any company 
>>> that has survived for 50 years, has undergone serious scrutiny by the 
>>> Federal Government and other regulators,has earned national and 
>>> international recognition for its achievements, and has survived the 
>>> test of time deserves serious consideration particularly when a blind 
>>> gentlemen achieved tremendous success with professional networking in 
>>> the late 1970s long before there was any kind of adaptive computer 
>>> technology, the Internet, smart phones,etc. We ourselves know from 
>>> whence we speak because we're very familiar with network marketing and 
>>> will not sit by and tolerate anyone slamming something that has the 
>>> potential to create a far brighter picture for blind individuals today 
>>> as it did in the 1970s. Given this man's success it's a sad commentary 
>>> on the blind community that there are not large numbers of us following 
>>> in his heals. How disgusting! Let's begin changing that by following his 
>>> example and large numbers of us particularly the Gen-Y folks on paths to 
>>> personal freedom and financial independence instead of being stuck in 
>>> life's 50-year plan complete with unnecessary barriers put before us by 
>>> society and its mistaken beliefs about the abilities of the blind.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue who looks forward to attending future NFB conventions and 
>>> hearing how blind individuals gave the rehab system the boot in favor of 
>>> financial independence, parents of blind children who took control of 
>>> their child's education by hiring highly-skilled professionals to teach 
>>> their kids blindness skills instead of messing with a public school 
>>> system that refuses to believe in the capabilities of blind children, 
>>> the list goes on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> From: "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Telework/work from 
>>> home/workvirtually/telecommute?
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s the other thing about the work from home jobs that I saw.
>>>
>>> I was not and am not about to pay for my own blood sweat and time to 
>>> work for someone.
>>>
>>> thanks for that advice, and hope you are doing well there.
>>>
>>> Also, others need to remember that advice too.
>>>
>>> there’s no amount of desperation that should ever get someone to pay to 
>>> work.  It doesn’t come out well.  Something else I’ve learned from hard 
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Der Jenny,
>>>>
>>>> Even the medical transcribing jobs are going away; a friend checked
>>>> on one--for a  large company--don't  remember which one it was, but 
>>>> when
>>>> they interviewed him, they wanted money.
>>>> Do not ever take a work-at-home job that requires you to pay
>>>> anything, not including jobs like Avon or Amway where you may have to
>>>> purchase a kit or something.
>>>> Darla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Snow White Dove
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:38 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Telework/work from home/work
>>>> virtually/telecommute?
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry I'm coming late as usual to this, but I'd like to know the 
>>>> same
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to do medical transcription.  That is what a lot of Blind
>>>> people do at home from what I've seen.
>>>>
>>>> If there is any ideas, please share.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Lisa D Porter <lisaporter429 at yahoo.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lauren,
>>>>> I'm definitely with you here. I want to work and have good skills, but
>>>> we're getting ready to move to a small town with terrible 
>>>> transportation so
>>>> Telework may be my only option.
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carry out a random act of kindness, with no expectation of reward, 
>>>>> safe
>>>> in the knowledge that one day someone might do the same for you "
>>>>> - Princes Diana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/2/2014 11:16 PM, Lauren Merryfield wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I wish someone would tell us some options for teleworking as a blind
>>>> person.
>>>>>> What kinds of work are blind people doing from home and what are the
>>>>>> options available?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Lauren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Makkawy, Amin
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:45 PM
>>>>>> To: 'electronics-talk at nfbnet.org'
>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Telework/work from home/work
>>>>>> virtually/telecommute?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deadline extended! Partake in my survey and be entered into a raffle
>>>>>> for one of three $30 amazon.com gift cards! Feel free to distribute
>>>>>> widely, list serves/colleagues/friends/anyone who you think might be
>>>> interested!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In mid-December I distributed a survey regarding the experiences of
>>>>>> blind teleworkers. Due to the great incites obtained, I am opening up
>>>>>> the survey until January 21st 2014. If you qualify (are a
>>>>>> teleworker/work from home and identify as blind/visually impaired),
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>>>>>> information you provide will be kept confidential.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To participate or in order  to learn more, navigate to the following
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NW9C9P2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy 2014,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amin Makkawy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Communication Studies Master's Candidate University of North Carolina
>>>>>> at Charlotte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Makkawy, Amin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:58 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: 'electronics-talk at nfbnet.org'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Make your voice heard and win one of three $30 amazon.com
>>>>>> gift cards!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please distribute to anyone who you think might be 
>>>>>> interested/qualified!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is Amin Makkawy. I am a graduate student at the University of
>>>>>> North Carolina Charlotte conducting research on the workplace
>>>>>> experience of blind and/or visually impaired employees who work
>>>>>> virtually (also known as teleworking or working remotely).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are over 18 years old, identify as visually impaired and/or
>>>>>> blind, and have been employed fulltime for the last six months in a
>>>>>> position where you telework at least approximately 75% of the time, I
>>>>>> want to hear from you! Below is a link where you can learn more and
>>>>>> participate in a short 30 minute survey I have designed. In fact if
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>>>> drawing for one of three $30 amazon.com gift cards!
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> me at amakkawy at uncc.edu<mailto:amakkawy at uncc.edu>. Thank you in 
>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amin Makkawy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M.A. Student: Department of Communication Studies UNC Charlotte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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