[Electronics-talk] IOS 8 and V.O working with delay

christopher hallsworth challsworth2 at icloud.com
Wed Oct 29 07:54:01 UTC 2014


I can assure you iOS 8.1 works much better than 8.0x ever will on the 4s. I have it here and have been since a few days before the public release. I am in the Apple Developer Program so had access to the beta. I love 8.1!



> On 29 Oct 2014, at 00:34, LORI via Electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all, I also am having some problems  with the Iphone 4sAFTER 
> DOWNLOADING IOS 8.  All apps now open  extremely slowly  and there seems to be a 
> delay whenever I  access Seri, voice over seems to work much slower as does 
> accessing any apps.  Anyone else having this problem or know a fix for it? 
> Unfortunately there is not a way to go back to IOS 7,  which worked great 
> with voice over. 
> Thanks, Lori 
> 
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> 1. Re: Do you use an antivirus with your iPhone?  (George)
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> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:15:32 +0900
> From: "George"  <osocalmo at yahoo.co.jp>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and  appliances"
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> Subject:  Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with your
> iPhone?
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> Hello listers,
> 
> My iPhone is working fine  again.
> 
> I just want to tell you what happened and about the mistakes I  did, so 
> that 
> you don't have the trouble I had in case the same happens to  you.
> 
> I asked the dealers on the phone and they told me that there were  not many 
> checks to do and that the phone was probably broken. According to  them, my 
> options were to pay about US$300 to get a similar phone or to  make a new 
> two-year contract to get a new one, because my current iPhone  is not on 
> guarantee.
> I didn't like either option, because my iPhone is  out of guarantee, but I 
> still have 4 months to finish with the current  contract; that means that I 
> would have to pay like US$200  anyway.
> USD300 for a similar phone or USD200 and a two-year contract to get  a new 
> one: that's ridiculous! And I was not even sure that my iPhone was  really 
> broken after all.
> I told them that the new update might be  causing the problem and that I 
> would wait for the next update to be  sure.
> 
> Well, in fact, I didn't have to wait so long.
> In the meantime  I did a recovery, but the computer I used didn't have my 
> latest backup.  The recovery didn't help.
> I thought that the earphones might work and I  tested them. They worked 
> perfectly, so I started using Voiceover with  earphones.
> Then I started doing some research on the internet and I came  across an 
> article that said that some people had lost audio capabilities  after they 
> updated to IOS 8.02; problems with the speakers and with the  mike.
> I thought that that might be the problem in my case, but I had been  able 
> to 
> use the speakers right after updating, so it was a little  suspicious. In 
> fact, that was not the problem in my case.
> I started to  give up, but, at last, I found an interesting article that 
> told 
> about the  10 things you should try when the speakers don't work.
> I had tried 7 of  them by that time, so, without hope, just in case, I 
> tried 
> the other  three, without testing for each one.Those were:
> 
> 1. Took the iPhone  cover out, locate the speakers and be sure that there's 
> no dust on them. I  hadn't taken the cover out for a long time.
> 
> 2. Move the switch on the  left lateral face of the iPhone up and down.
> 
> 3. Press down on the right  lower corner of the iPhone for about 20 seconds 
> (they say the connectors  are there).
> 
> I did these three things and turn on my iPhone without any  expectations, 
> just in case, but the speakers started working and  everything seemed to 
> work 
> fine, except for my email address (probably  hacked) and for Siri that 
> continued to dial phone numbers randomly every  time I tried to use it.
> 
> Why my email address was hacked, I don't know  even now, but the Siri 
> problem 
> seems to be a bug: it started to work  correctly after i configured it 
> again 
> (It started dialing random numbers  after I did a software reset).
> 
> I still find that Voiceover becomes slow  to act, to read the screen and to 
> speak sometimes when I listen to  internet radio live broadcasts and this 
> can 
> be a bug in Safari or in the  player; it never happened with IOS 6.
> When it happens, I touch the screen  many times, particularly on the top, 
> and 
> Voiceover comes back again.   When it doesn't come back after that, I ask 
> Siri to load another page and  the problem gets solved.
> 
> Also, I had a hard time to restore my iPhone  from the backup I had in an 
> old 
> computer; it failed some times, and the  computer became too slow each 
> time, 
> but finally I did it.  The backup  that succeeded took about 4 hours. After 
> the first restoration failed, I  tried to restore again, but I always ran 
> out 
> of space. Here's the  solution: wait until the next day: it seems that 
> iTunes 
> leaves a lot of  temporary data on the hard disk, but it was deleted on the 
> following  day.
> Don't use an old pc for backups.
> 
> Conclusion:
> There's no  virus in my iPhone, just a lot of bugs and issues that started 
> after I  updated to IOS 8. I wanted to downgrade but they don't allow it 
> anymore  now; they told me that the files for IOS 7 are not on the server  
> anymore.
> 
> The other day, I upgraded to IOS 8.1 and I became unable  to turn Voiceover 
> off even by clicking the button in Voiceover in the  settings. When I 
> checked 
> the triple click, I discovered that it had  changed to default. When I 
> reset 
> it to Voiceover, I could turn Voiceover  off again.
> It seems that settings get corrupted somehow after the updates  and that 
> starts to cause unexpected problems.
> 
> If you are still with  IOS 7.2, I would advise to stay on it for a while; 
> there seem to have  appeared some vulnerabilities on it lately, but you 
> will 
> avoid some  unnecessary headaches.
> 
> I will have to update again to solve the  Safari/iPlayer problem when the 
> next version comes; I feel that I fell  into an update trap.
> 
> By the way, I still like my  iPhone.
> 
> HTH
> George
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  "George via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To:  "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"  
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> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014  8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with your  iPhone?
> 
> 
>> Thank you, Steve.
>> 
>> This is a good  point. I hadn't thought of that.
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> -----  Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Jacobson via Electronics-talk"  <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "George via Electronics-talk"  <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014  10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with  your iPhone?
>> 
>> 
>>> George,
>>> 
>>> If  you have a dealer near you, I think it would be worth bringing your  
>>> phone in and have them run checks on it.
>>> From your  description of how you use your phone, it seems unlikely to 
> me 
>>> that you have a virus, especially given
>>> that IOS 8 is so  new.  In addition to IOS 8 bugs, it is possible that 
> you 
>>> have bad memory that is causing a
>>> problem.  Especially if  your phone is still on warranty, it would be 
> good 
>>> to make certain  that there isn't a
>>> memory or other hardware  problem.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve  Jacobson
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:32:41 +0900, George  via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you, Ray, for the  information.
>>> 
>>>>> George, based on your  description, I'd say you have a corrupt 
> install 
>>>> of
>>>> the latest IOS.
>>> 
>>>> Well, it  worked perfectly ok after I installed the latest version,  
> some
>>>> days ago, but, suddenly, it became impossible to use  Voiceover and siri
>>>> anymore, yesterday.
>>>> My  wife can use it, apparently without any problem; it's just  that
>>>> VoiceOver doesn't talk and Siri plays tricks.  That's  why I think it 
>>>> might
>>>> have a  virus.
>>> 
>>>>> To put your phone in to UDF  mode, press and hold down both the power
>>>> button and the home  button for longer than ten seconds. Your phone will 
> 
>>>> then
>>>> go in to a condition where the only option  is to hard reset or cancel.
>>> 
>>>> I did that and  the phone restarted automatically.
>>> 
>>>>> There is another way to do this.  First, turn Find my phone off on  
>>>> your
>>>> phone.  Then, completely shut it  down.  Now, with one end of the cable
>>>> plugged in to your  computer, plug the other end in to your phone while
>>>> pressing  down the home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well, I  think I have no other choice than doing so.
>>>> I would like  to avoid it if possible, but...
>>>> Do you think there's no  other way around this?
>>> 
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  George
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