[Electronics-talk] IOS 8 and V.O working with delay
Christopher Chaltain
chaltain at gmail.com
Wed Oct 29 10:29:41 UTC 2014
Well, obviously, anyone can update whenever they want. One good reason
some people may have is to take advantage of the new features in the
latest release of the operating system. Family sharing, braille input
and others are pretty significant new features available on all devices
supporting IOS and may in and of themselves entice someone to upgrade
pretty quickly.
On 10/28/2014 11:19 PM, Poppa Bear via Electronics-talk wrote:
> I have the I phone 6 and updated it the other day to 8.1 and it has been
> problem free. One thing to think about is waiting about a week to do any
> updates and researching if there are any bugs first. I don't understand why
> people are always in such a rush to go and update their phones if they have
> been working just fine.
> HTH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Lori Motis via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:46 PM
> To: Mike Freeman; Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] IOS 8 and V.O working with delay
>
> I too have had a VoiceOver and Seri slow down with the update on my iPhone
> 4S. I have had this phone for three years now and am overdue for an upgrade.
> I have a friend that had a 4S, and was tired of the problems the latest
> update did that she went and got the iPhone 6 and everything works great and
> fast. I wish they would not let the older phones and devices upgrade, when
> they are too old to use the updates.
> Lori AKA Food Lady
>
>
> On 10/28/14, Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> Upgrading to iOS 8.1 may help.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of LORI via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:35 PM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] IOS 8 and V.O working with delay
>>
>>
>> Hello all, I also am having some problems with the Iphone 4sAFTER
>> DOWNLOADING IOS 8. All apps now open extremely slowly and there
>> seems to be a delay whenever I access Seri, voice over seems to work
>> much slower as does
>>
>> accessing any apps. Anyone else having this problem or know a fix for it?
>> Unfortunately there is not a way to go back to IOS 7, which worked
>> great with voice over.
>> Thanks, Lori
>>
>>
>>
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>> 1. Re: Do you use an antivirus with your iPhone? (George)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:15:32 +0900
>> From: "George" <osocalmo at yahoo.co.jp>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with your
>> iPhone?
>> Message-ID: <EA27F1F9937E4F53AAADDD93985017B8 at FM154804910>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Hello listers,
>>
>> My iPhone is working fine again.
>>
>> I just want to tell you what happened and about the mistakes I did,
>> so that you don't have the trouble I had in case the same happens to
>> you.
>>
>> I asked the dealers on the phone and they told me that there were not
>> many
>>
>> checks to do and that the phone was probably broken. According to
>> them, my
>>
>> options were to pay about US$300 to get a similar phone or to make a
>> new two-year contract to get a new one, because my current iPhone is
>> not on guarantee.
>> I didn't like either option, because my iPhone is out of guarantee,
>> but I still have 4 months to finish with the current contract; that
>> means that I
>>
>> would have to pay like US$200 anyway.
>> USD300 for a similar phone or USD200 and a two-year contract to get a
>> new
>> one: that's ridiculous! And I was not even sure that my iPhone was
>> really broken after all.
>> I told them that the new update might be causing the problem and that
>> I would wait for the next update to be sure.
>>
>> Well, in fact, I didn't have to wait so long.
>> In the meantime I did a recovery, but the computer I used didn't have
>> my latest backup. The recovery didn't help.
>> I thought that the earphones might work and I tested them. They
>> worked perfectly, so I started using Voiceover with earphones.
>> Then I started doing some research on the internet and I came across
>> an article that said that some people had lost audio capabilities
>> after they updated to IOS 8.02; problems with the speakers and with the
> mike.
>> I thought that that might be the problem in my case, but I had been
>> able to use the speakers right after updating, so it was a little
>> suspicious. In fact, that was not the problem in my case.
>> I started to give up, but, at last, I found an interesting article
>> that told about the 10 things you should try when the speakers don't
>> work.
>> I had tried 7 of them by that time, so, without hope, just in case, I
>> tried the other three, without testing for each one.Those were:
>>
>> 1. Took the iPhone cover out, locate the speakers and be sure that
>> there's
>>
>> no dust on them. I hadn't taken the cover out for a long time.
>>
>> 2. Move the switch on the left lateral face of the iPhone up and down.
>>
>> 3. Press down on the right lower corner of the iPhone for about 20
>> seconds
>>
>> (they say the connectors are there).
>>
>> I did these three things and turn on my iPhone without any
>> expectations, just in case, but the speakers started working and
>> everything seemed to work fine, except for my email address (probably
>> hacked) and for Siri that continued to dial phone numbers randomly
>> every time I tried to use it.
>>
>> Why my email address was hacked, I don't know even now, but the Siri
>> problem seems to be a bug: it started to work correctly after i
>> configured it again (It started dialing random numbers after I did a
>> software reset).
>>
>> I still find that Voiceover becomes slow to act, to read the screen
>> and to
>>
>> speak sometimes when I listen to internet radio live broadcasts and
>> this can be a bug in Safari or in the player; it never happened with
>> IOS 6.
>> When it happens, I touch the screen many times, particularly on the
>> top, and
>> Voiceover comes back again. When it doesn't come back after that, I ask
>> Siri to load another page and the problem gets solved.
>>
>> Also, I had a hard time to restore my iPhone from the backup I had in
>> an old computer; it failed some times, and the computer became too
>> slow each time, but finally I did it. The backup that succeeded took
>> about 4 hours. After
>>
>> the first restoration failed, I tried to restore again, but I always
>> ran out of space. Here's the solution: wait until the next day: it
>> seems that iTunes leaves a lot of temporary data on the hard disk,
>> but it was deleted on the
>>
>> following day.
>> Don't use an old pc for backups.
>>
>> Conclusion:
>> There's no virus in my iPhone, just a lot of bugs and issues that
>> started after I updated to IOS 8. I wanted to downgrade but they
>> don't allow it anymore now; they told me that the files for IOS 7 are
>> not on the server anymore.
>>
>> The other day, I upgraded to IOS 8.1 and I became unable to turn
>> Voiceover
>>
>> off even by clicking the button in Voiceover in the settings. When I
>> checked the triple click, I discovered that it had changed to
>> default. When I reset it to Voiceover, I could turn Voiceover off
>> again.
>> It seems that settings get corrupted somehow after the updates and
>> that starts to cause unexpected problems.
>>
>> If you are still with IOS 7.2, I would advise to stay on it for a
>> while; there seem to have appeared some vulnerabilities on it lately,
>> but you will avoid some unnecessary headaches.
>>
>> I will have to update again to solve the Safari/iPlayer problem when
>> the next version comes; I feel that I fell into an update trap.
>>
>> By the way, I still like my iPhone.
>>
>> HTH
>> George
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with your iPhone?
>>
>>
>>> Thank you, Steve.
>>>
>>> This is a good point. I hadn't thought of that.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Jacobson via Electronics-talk"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "George via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Do you use an antivirus with your
>>> iPhone?
>>>
>>>
>>>> George,
>>>>
>>>> If you have a dealer near you, I think it would be worth bringing
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>> phone in and have them run checks on it.
>>>> From your description of how you use your phone, it seems unlikely
>>>> to
>> me
>>>> that you have a virus, especially given that IOS 8 is so new. In
>>>> addition to IOS 8 bugs, it is possible that
>> you
>>>> have bad memory that is causing a
>>>> problem. Especially if your phone is still on warranty, it would
>>>> be
>> good
>>>> to make certain that there isn't a
>>>> memory or other hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:32:41 +0900, George via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Ray, for the information.
>>>>
>>>>> > George, based on your description, I'd say you have a corrupt
>> install
>>>>> of
>>>>> the latest IOS.
>>>>
>>>>> Well, it worked perfectly ok after I installed the latest
>>>>> version,
>> some
>>>>> days ago, but, suddenly, it became impossible to use Voiceover and
>>>>> siri anymore, yesterday.
>>>>> My wife can use it, apparently without any problem; it's just
>>>>> that VoiceOver doesn't talk and Siri plays tricks. That's why I
>>>>> think it might have a virus.
>>>>
>>>>> > To put your phone in to UDF mode, press and hold down both the
>>>>> power button and the home button for longer than ten seconds. Your
>>>>> phone will
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> then
>>>>> go in to a condition where the only option is to hard reset or cancel.
>>>>
>>>>> I did that and the phone restarted automatically.
>>>>
>>>>> > There is another way to do this. First, turn Find my phone off
>>>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>> phone. Then, completely shut it down. Now, with one end of the
>>>>> cable plugged in to your computer, plug the other end in to your
>>>>> phone while pressing down the home button.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think I have no other choice than doing so.
>>>>> I would like to avoid it if possible, but...
>>>>> Do you think there's no other way around this?
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> George
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