[Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places

Wed Jul 1 02:06:41 UTC 2015

ADA applies to employment, public accommodations, commerce, 
transportation and is not just restricted to the Federal government. 
Secion 508 of the Rehabilitation Act says that anything procured by the 
Federal government or with Federal funds needs to be accessible. The 
following web page gives a good summary of legislation surrounding 
rights of the disabled: http://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm

On 06/30/2015 07:56 PM, Brent Harding via Electronics-talk wrote:
> Appliances aren't but I would think those tablets at restaurants are,
> because restaurants are a such a place open to the public. I always took
> the ADA to mean the Federal government, unless I'm confusing that with 508.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk"
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>> I'm no lawyer but I rather doubt it since appliances aren't a place of
>> public accommodation, a program or service offered to the public.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shannon Cook via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 3:00 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Shannon Cook
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>
>> Does the ADA cover this area?  I did not think it did, but that is why
>> I'm
>> asking.  I am not sure with the amendment.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kendra Schafer via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:37 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Kendra Schafer
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I don't understand why they don't follow the ADA and at the very least,
>> write apps to control the machines.
>> Kendra
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, this is not a new idea.  We've talked about it both in the NFBCS
>>> division and the Research and development committee.
>>>
>>> It's a very difficult hill to summit.
>>>
>>> You can either fragment the problem, and try to convince each flat
>>> screen
>> appliance manufacturer, appliances include these drink machines, to make
>> their own app that controls their appliance.  You also meed to
>> convince them
>> to make the app accessible, and to keep the features of the app in parity
>> with the features you get from using the machine without an app.
>>>
>>> Or, you can centralize the problem and try to get all appliance
>> manufacturers to agree on a standard communications system among mobile
>> devices and appliances, so that one app can be developed that uses this
>> standard system and control all the appliances that use it.
>>>
>>> So far, there has been little traction on either front.
>>>
>>> Sorry to deliver bad news on a Friday afternoon, I just wanted to move
>>> the conversation forward to the current state the world :)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:59:57PM -0700, Drew Hunthausen via
>> Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>> I haven't seen one of these yet, but I wonder if there could be some
>>>> kind of software or app created to allow smart phones to access the
>>>> machine wirelessly, select what they want and pay for it all by the
>> phone.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:00 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Brett Boyer
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys. I don't know how many of you have seen these new
>>>> touch-screen drink machines.
>>>>
>>>> These are the machines that are completely flat screen, and have
>>>> pages and pages of drinks and/or flavors to make your own combinations.
>>>>
>>>> They are very cool but I haven not been able to find a way for blind
>>>> peple to access them independently. I am pretty pissed that I can't
>>>> get up and get my own drink anymore without having a sighted person
>>>> or an employee waste time by helping me scroll through pages of flavors
>> just to get a drink!
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any ideas about this or anything we could do to get these
>>>> machines accessible?
>>>>
>>>> I hope this isn't off topic
>>>>
>>>> bb
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