[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at fastfood places

Wed Jul 1 19:57:47 UTC 2015

That reminds me of the Uber I took home the other day. The guy didn't sound 
foreign, but me, him, and the other person I flagged down to help me find 
him had two different ideas where the front was, where I was standing. I 
managed to make it after she told him, and we called each other a couple 
more times.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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Cc: "Charlotte" <sirius_black at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at 
fastfood places

> Absolutely. Or some people just don't get a clue. My partner and I had to 
> tell this one cashier at Noodles and Co. 3 times that we were blind and we 
> needed help. Then it was grudgingly given.
>
>
> On 7/1/2015 1:36 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>> In a lot of places now, there are foreigners who don't speak enough 
>> English to be able to help you.  I am concerned about that if there are 
>> only inaccessible ways to order and pay.  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:16 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at 
>> fastfood places
>>
>> The ADA seldom specifies the type of accommodation that must be
>> provided. If the only way you can get your food or drink is to use the
>> inaccessible kiosk, that could be an ADA violation, but if an employee
>> is willing to assist, that would likely satisfy the ADA's requirement to
>> provide an accommodation.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 4:40 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at
>> fastfood places
>>
>> I'm no lawyer but I rather doubt it since appliances aren't a place of
>> public accommodation, a program or service offered to the public.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shannon Cook via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 3:00 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Shannon Cook
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>
>> Does the ADA cover this area?  I did not think it did, but that is why
>> I'm asking.  I am not sure with the amendment.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kendra Schafer via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:37 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Kendra Schafer
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I don't understand why they don't follow the ADA and at the very least,
>> write apps to control the machines.
>> Kendra
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, this is not a new idea.  We've talked about it both in the NFBCS
>>> division and the Research and development committee.
>>>
>>> It's a very difficult hill to summit.
>>>
>>> You can either fragment the problem, and try to convince each flat
>>> screen
>> appliance manufacturer, appliances include these drink machines, to make
>> their own app that controls their appliance.  You also meed to convince
>> them to make the app accessible, and to keep the features of the app in
>> parity with the features you get from using the machine without an app.
>>>
>>> Or, you can centralize the problem and try to get all appliance
>> manufacturers to agree on a standard communications system among mobile
>> devices and appliances, so that one app can be developed that uses this
>> standard system and control all the appliances that use it.
>>>
>>> So far, there has been little traction on either front.
>>>
>>> Sorry to deliver bad news on a Friday afternoon, I just wanted to move
>>
>>> the conversation forward to the current state the world :)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:59:57PM -0700, Drew Hunthausen via
>> Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>> I haven't seen one of these yet, but I wonder if there could be some
>>>> kind of software or app created to allow smart phones to access the
>>>> machine wirelessly, select what they want and pay for it all by the
>> phone.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:00 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Brett Boyer
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys. I don't know how many of you have seen these new
>>>> touch-screen drink machines.
>>>>
>>>> These are the machines that are completely flat screen, and have
>>>> pages and pages of drinks and/or flavors to make your own
>> combinations.
>>>>
>>>> They are very cool but I haven not been able to find a way for blind
>>>> peple to access them independently. I am pretty pissed that I can't
>>>> get up and get my own drink anymore without having a sighted person
>>>> or an employee waste time by helping me scroll through pages of
>>>> flavors
>> just to get a drink!
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any ideas about this or anything we could do to get these
>>
>>>> machines accessible?
>>>>
>>>> I hope this isn't off topic
>>>>
>>>> bb
>>>>
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>> June is Cataract Awareness month. A cataract is the clouding of the lens
>> in the eye that affects vision. To help prevent cataracts, the South
>> Carolina Commission for the Blind encourages you to wear sunglasses and
>> a hat with a wide brim, stop smoking and practice good nutrition. For
>> more information about how the SC Commission for the Blind can help you
>> or a loved one, please visit us at www.sccb.state.sc.us or give us a
>> call at 803-898-8731.
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