[Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

Sat Jun 27 18:05:24 UTC 2015

The real question is what do you need an audible traffic signal or an iPhone app for? I generally cross intersections by relying on traffic patterns, not on something to tell me the color of the light.

Just my thought,

Jim

Written While on the Move

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I guess my problem is that I don't see how *simple* vibration patterns could
> convey enough information about complex intersections and if it were a
> simple go-no-go, you'd be trusting the app and/or the traffic signal to make
> judgment calls for you. I guess I don't trust either the iPhone or the
> traffic signal to get it right.
> 
> I know what I shall say next is impractical. But I'd prefer a little remote
> that, when punched, would do the same thing emergency vehicles can do, that
> is, automagically turn lights green in the direction you're going. Ah, what
> fun!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:27 AM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I do think the smart phone app is worth considering as I don't see why you
> would need ear buds when a developer could incorporate vibration patterns to
> indicate the status of the traffic signal.And of course, we have to rely  on
> our own hearing and judgment first and foremost when crossing streets.
> I see this app as a tool to supplement our travel, in the same way that some
> use Blind Square or other GPS apps.
> 
> JMO
> 
> Liz
> 
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> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 11:10 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
> 
> So, I guess Phoenix isn't the only city with the audible signals that sound 
> like a machine gun.  When I asked a person from The City why the change was 
> made, he said a group of engineers decided that sound was better than a 
> chirp or beep.  I told him I'd bet anything not one of them were blind nor 
> cross intersections.  I also pointed out that those with hearing deficits 
> may not be able to hear the new sound.
> 
> Mike, I get what you're saying about the delay of a traffic light's 
> information.  But perhaps the app could be launched before you leave, and 
> then run in the background.
> 
> As far as headphones are concerned, we may see future devices coming out 
> with the bone-conducting headphones included.
> 
> Vince
> 
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> 
>> Hi, Elizabeth.
>> 
>> With respect, I beg to differ with you. By the time an app told you what 
>> you
>> needed to know, the light would have changed. Moreover, you'd need earbuds
>> or those bone-conducting headphones to hear your i-device anyway. And I
>> wouldn't want to be fiddling with an app at a street crossing when, in the
>> end, like everyone else, I'm dependent upon my senses and my brain to mind
>> its P's and Q's.
>> 
>> Also, such an app and the underlying infrastructure would be way too easy 
>> to
>> hack -- not a comforting thought when my posterior is on the line.
>> 
>> Mike Freeman
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:12 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> I agree that having such an app would be extremely helpful. I really don't
>> like the audible signals that are currently in use, but I think a smart
>> phone app is a great idea.
>> It would also benefit us since cars are much quieter now. Also, we have to
>> contend with annoying, turning traffic.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Liz
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:00 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>> 
>> Someone said they'd heard about work on an app to identify when a traffic
>> light was walk or don't walk.  Anyone know any more about this?  I keep
>> thinking how useful that would be.  As I'm getting older, I don't hear the
>> traffic changes as well as I used to.  And an app seems a lot cheaper than
>> putting in audible signals.  And I keep hearing about traffic signals 
>> having
>> all kinds of "smart" things built in, so maybe an app could build on
>> something already there.
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
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