[Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

Sat Jun 27 18:08:35 UTC 2015

This would be awesome! I know it wouldn't happen but we have to dream a
little don't we? Imagine how popular you'd be if you had one of those.
Sighted people would be calling you for rides! <grin>

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I guess my problem is that I don't see how *simple* vibration patterns could
convey enough information about complex intersections and if it were a
simple go-no-go, you'd be trusting the app and/or the traffic signal to make
judgment calls for you. I guess I don't trust either the iPhone or the
traffic signal to get it right.

I know what I shall say next is impractical. But I'd prefer a little remote
that, when punched, would do the same thing emergency vehicles can do, that
is, automagically turn lights green in the direction you're going. Ah, what
fun!

Mike

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Hi Mike,
I do think the smart phone app is worth considering as I don't see why you
would need ear buds when a developer could incorporate vibration patterns to
indicate the status of the traffic signal.And of course, we have to rely  on
our own hearing and judgment first and foremost when crossing streets.
I see this app as a tool to supplement our travel, in the same way that some
use Blind Square or other GPS apps.

JMO

Liz

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So, I guess Phoenix isn't the only city with the audible signals that sound
like a machine gun.  When I asked a person from The City why the change was
made, he said a group of engineers decided that sound was better than a
chirp or beep.  I told him I'd bet anything not one of them were blind nor
cross intersections.  I also pointed out that those with hearing deficits
may not be able to hear the new sound.

Mike, I get what you're saying about the delay of a traffic light's
information.  But perhaps the app could be launched before you leave, and
then run in the background.

As far as headphones are concerned, we may see future devices coming out
with the bone-conducting headphones included.

Vince

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> Hi, Elizabeth.
>
> With respect, I beg to differ with you. By the time an app told you what 
> you
> needed to know, the light would have changed. Moreover, you'd need earbuds
> or those bone-conducting headphones to hear your i-device anyway. And I
> wouldn't want to be fiddling with an app at a street crossing when, in the
> end, like everyone else, I'm dependent upon my senses and my brain to mind
> its P's and Q's.
>
> Also, such an app and the underlying infrastructure would be way too easy 
> to
> hack -- not a comforting thought when my posterior is on the line.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:12 AM
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> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>
> Hi Tracy,
>
> I agree that having such an app would be extremely helpful. I really don't
> like the audible signals that are currently in use, but I think a smart
> phone app is a great idea.
> It would also benefit us since cars are much quieter now. Also, we have to
> contend with annoying, turning traffic.
>
> Best
>
> Liz
>
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> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
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> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>
> Someone said they'd heard about work on an app to identify when a traffic
> light was walk or don't walk.  Anyone know any more about this?  I keep
> thinking how useful that would be.  As I'm getting older, I don't hear the
> traffic changes as well as I used to.  And an app seems a lot cheaper than
> putting in audible signals.  And I keep hearing about traffic signals 
> having
> all kinds of "smart" things built in, so maybe an app could build on
> something already there.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
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