[Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

Sat Jun 27 19:25:24 UTC 2015

Well I do. Twice I've had the situation where I've had to cross a road 
where the cars travel at a high rate of speed and the road is at least 
four lanes wide. Because the cars are traveling fast, I want a full 
cycle when I start crossing the street. The traffic light patterns on 
the street I'm trying to cross mean that cars aren't queuing up at the 
intersection when their light is red, so I can't tell that a car is 
stopped there. It also means that cars aren't just building up speed 
from the previous light; they're streaming through multiple 
intersections, and like I said, building up speed. Furthermore, in one 
case, it was a T-intersection, so there was no cross street and in the 
other case, the cross street was so quiet, there was frequently no 
traffic on it, so in neither case, could I use the cross street traffic 
to help me gage the traffic light cycle.

Just because you've never experienced such an intersection, doesn't mean 
they don't exist. I have no problems answering questions on my 
situation, but I don't it's appropriate to question my or anyone else's 
mobility skills on list.

On 06/27/2015 01:56 PM, Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk wrote:
> If the traffic is *that* light, who *cares* what the state of the light is!
>
> Mike
>
>
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> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 11:48 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Christopher Chaltain
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>
> I've traveled quite a bit as well, and I've run into more than one
> intersection where the traffic is so light that it's hard to know what state
> the traffic light is in just based on the traffic pattern. Using the traffic
> pattern is great when you have a lot of traffic, but not so good when the
> traffic is pretty light.
>
> On 06/27/2015 01:44 PM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk wrote:
>> Where in California? I live in San Francisco, and have traveled quite a
> bit in Hollywood, Santa Monica, and  San Diego. I've seen plenty of cocked
> up intersections, but none I couldn't  negotiate better by listening to
> traffic patterns, rather tham listening  to traffic lights.
>>
>> Of courss this is not a new topic, it's been talked about since the 80s.
> However, I still have not been convinced that APS technology is more
> reliable than traffic patterns.
>>
>> I know this is a controversial topic, and I'm not sure where it's going,
> but I want to put in my 2 cents.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Written While on the Move
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope all of you that say no one needs audible traffic lights,
>>> realize we're still arguing about something that has been going on for
> years.
>>> The idea that audible traffic lights are not necessary, folks forget
>>> about some of the really difficult intersections in cities. Now,
>>> maybe you don't have intersections like this or maybe you don't
>>> travel independently very much. And, I hope this is the case.
>>> However, there are those instances where intersections, these days,
>>> audible traffic lights are almost a necessity. If you don't need them,
> that's great!
>>> Also, and I'm not familiar with the proper terminology, but a lot of
>>> heavily traffic areas now have a new pattern where all cars stop and
>>> allow pedestrians to cross any way they want. It would be nice to
>>> know what type of intersection you are approaching. The newer lights
>>> that I've seen here in California, when the button is pressed down it
>>> will tell you what intersection you are at, what corner you are at,
>>> and a count-down letting you know where to go. I have not used any of
>>> these myself but I 've heard them and have been around them while with
> other people.
>>> Do I think everyone should use audible signals? No, obviously not,
>>> but having a device that tells you about the intersection you are at
>>> would be a big help.
>>> bb
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>>> On Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk
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>>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>
>>> Hi, Elizabeth.
>>>
>>> With respect, I beg to differ with you. By the time an app told you
>>> what you needed to know, the light would have changed. Moreover,
>>> you'd need earbuds or those bone-conducting headphones to hear your
>>> i-device anyway. And I wouldn't want to be fiddling with an app at a
>>> street crossing when, in the end, like everyone else, I'm dependent
>>> upon my senses and my brain to mind its P's and Q's.
>>>
>>> Also, such an app and the underlying infrastructure would be way too
>>> easy to hack -- not a comforting thought when my posterior is on the
> line.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:12 AM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>
>>> I agree that having such an app would be extremely helpful. I really
>>> don't like the audible signals that are currently in use, but I think
>>> a smart phone app is a great idea.
>>> It would also benefit us since cars are much quieter now. Also, we
>>> have to contend with annoying, turning traffic.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
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>>> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:00 AM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>
>>> Someone said they'd heard about work on an app to identify when a
>>> traffic light was walk or don't walk.  Anyone know any more about
>>> this?  I keep thinking how useful that would be.  As I'm getting
>>> older, I don't hear the traffic changes as well as I used to.  And an
>>> app seems a lot cheaper than putting in audible signals.  And I keep
>>> hearing about traffic signals having all kinds of "smart" things
>>> built in, so maybe an app could build on something already there.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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