[Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

Sat Jun 27 19:38:48 UTC 2015

Yes, it's that way here, sometimes.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Christopher Chaltain
Cc: Jim Barbour ; Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

I just realized my last message got kind of screwed up. Are there times when 
you find the traffic pattern is heavy enough that you can't just rely on no 
traffic to determine when to go, but light enough that you can't rely on 
traffic patterns? That thank you Chris, paragraph Jim

Written While on the Move

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>
> But if the traffic pattern is light, then you can just go when there's no 
> traffic.
>
> Have you found situations where the traffic is heavy enough that you don't 
> trust yourself to just go, but light enough that traffic signals help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've traveled quite a bit as well, and I've run into more than one 
>> intersection where the traffic is so light that it's hard to know what 
>> state the traffic light is in just based on the traffic pattern. Using 
>> the traffic pattern is great when you have a lot of traffic, but not so 
>> good when the traffic is pretty light.
>>
>>> On 06/27/2015 01:44 PM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>> Where in California? I live in San Francisco, and have traveled quite a 
>>> bit in Hollywood, Santa Monica, and  San Diego. I've seen plenty of 
>>> cocked up intersections, but none I couldn't  negotiate better by 
>>> listening to traffic patterns, rather tham listening  to traffic lights.
>>>
>>> Of courss this is not a new topic, it's been talked about since the 80s. 
>>> However, I still have not been convinced that APS technology is more 
>>> reliable than traffic patterns.
>>>
>>> I know this is a controversial topic, and I'm not sure where it's going, 
>>> but I want to put in my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Written While on the Move
>>>
>>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I hope all of you that say no one needs audible traffic lights, realize
>>>> we're still arguing about something that has been going on for years.
>>>> The idea that audible traffic lights are not necessary, folks forget 
>>>> about
>>>> some of the really difficult intersections in cities. Now, maybe you 
>>>> don't
>>>> have intersections like this or maybe you don't travel independently 
>>>> very
>>>> much. And, I hope this is the case. However, there are those instances 
>>>> where
>>>> intersections, these days, audible traffic lights are almost a 
>>>> necessity. If
>>>> you don't need them, that's great!
>>>> Also, and I'm not familiar with the proper terminology, but a lot of 
>>>> heavily
>>>> traffic areas now have a new pattern where all cars stop and allow
>>>> pedestrians to cross any way they want. It would be nice to know what 
>>>> type
>>>> of intersection you are approaching. The newer lights that I've seen 
>>>> here in
>>>> California, when the button is pressed down it will tell you what
>>>> intersection you are at, what corner you are at, and a count-down 
>>>> letting
>>>> you know where to go. I have not used any of these myself but I 've 
>>>> heard
>>>> them and have been around them while with other people.
>>>> Do I think everyone should use audible signals? No, obviously not, but
>>>> having a device that tells you about the intersection you are at would 
>>>> be a
>>>> big help.
>>>> bb
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:18 AM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Elizabeth.
>>>>
>>>> With respect, I beg to differ with you. By the time an app told you 
>>>> what you
>>>> needed to know, the light would have changed. Moreover, you'd need 
>>>> earbuds
>>>> or those bone-conducting headphones to hear your i-device anyway. And I
>>>> wouldn't want to be fiddling with an app at a street crossing when, in 
>>>> the
>>>> end, like everyone else, I'm dependent upon my senses and my brain to 
>>>> mind
>>>> its P's and Q's.
>>>>
>>>> Also, such an app and the underlying infrastructure would be way too 
>>>> easy to
>>>> hack -- not a comforting thought when my posterior is on the line.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:12 AM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that having such an app would be extremely helpful. I really 
>>>> don't
>>>> like the audible signals that are currently in use, but I think a smart
>>>> phone app is a great idea.
>>>> It would also benefit us since cars are much quieter now. Also, we have 
>>>> to
>>>> contend with annoying, turning traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:00 AM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>>>
>>>> Someone said they'd heard about work on an app to identify when a 
>>>> traffic
>>>> light was walk or don't walk.  Anyone know any more about this?  I keep
>>>> thinking how useful that would be.  As I'm getting older, I don't hear 
>>>> the
>>>> traffic changes as well as I used to.  And an app seems a lot cheaper 
>>>> than
>>>> putting in audible signals.  And I keep hearing about traffic signals 
>>>> having
>>>> all kinds of "smart" things built in, so maybe an app could build on
>>>> something already there.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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