[Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app

[Brent Harding]

I could probably use this for one particular intersection that is hard for 
me to get across. Well, it would be one of the streets that would be hard. 
It's your classic corner where a busy street meets one with very little, or 
mostly turning traffic. From what my mobility instructor said, most of the 
traffic that comes from that street turn onto the busier street. It seems 
that when I finally know I hear quiet, and nothing is turning in front of 
me, I'd be very late into my turn, so I'd have to have another way to know 
when the walk signal is. One person somewhere told me that the new audible 
signals here are literally one beep, that I have never heard.

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>I haven't heard the machine gun ones yet.  Just heard the ones that chirp 
>or beep, or sound like The Syncopated clock, if anybody knows what that 
>means. It's a large click, like it's counting seconds.  Pam.
>
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> From: cheez via Electronics-talk
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> So, I guess Phoenix isn't the only city with the audible signals that 
> sound
> like a machine gun.  When I asked a person from The City why the change 
> was
> made, he said a group of engineers decided that sound was better than a
> chirp or beep.  I told him I'd bet anything not one of them were blind nor
> cross intersections.  I also pointed out that those with hearing deficits
> may not be able to hear the new sound.
>
> Mike, I get what you're saying about the delay of a traffic light's
> information.  But perhaps the app could be launched before you leave, and
> then run in the background.
>
> As far as headphones are concerned, we may see future devices coming out
> with the bone-conducting headphones included.
>
> Vince
>
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>
>> Hi, Elizabeth.
>>
>> With respect, I beg to differ with you. By the time an app told you what 
>> you
>> needed to know, the light would have changed. Moreover, you'd need 
>> earbuds
>> or those bone-conducting headphones to hear your i-device anyway. And I
>> wouldn't want to be fiddling with an app at a street crossing when, in 
>> the
>> end, like everyone else, I'm dependent upon my senses and my brain to 
>> mind
>> its P's and Q's.
>>
>> Also, such an app and the underlying infrastructure would be way too easy 
>> to
>> hack -- not a comforting thought when my posterior is on the line.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
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>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:12 AM
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>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>
>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> I agree that having such an app would be extremely helpful. I really 
>> don't
>> like the audible signals that are currently in use, but I think a smart
>> phone app is a great idea.
>> It would also benefit us since cars are much quieter now. Also, we have 
>> to
>> contend with annoying, turning traffic.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Liz
>>
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>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:00 AM
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>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Traffic signal app
>>
>> Someone said they'd heard about work on an app to identify when a traffic
>> light was walk or don't walk.  Anyone know any more about this?  I keep
>> thinking how useful that would be.  As I'm getting older, I don't hear 
>> the
>> traffic changes as well as I used to.  And an app seems a lot cheaper 
>> than
>> putting in audible signals.  And I keep hearing about traffic signals 
>> having
>> all kinds of "smart" things built in, so maybe an app could build on
>> something already there.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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