[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at fastfood places

Tue Jun 30 03:13:45 UTC 2015

I wouldn't judge the ADA and all of it's accomplishments based on this 
one example.

On 06/29/2015 12:23 PM, Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk wrote:
> This shows where the ADA has gotten us.
>
> Andy
>
>
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> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:22 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Gerald Levy
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at
> fastfood places
>
>
> Unfortunately, these devices seem to be the way of the future, and blind
> consumers will be left further and further behind, as the blind advocacy
> groups continue to sit on their fat butts and do little or nothing to
> aggressively address this problem.  Besides touchscreen drink machines
> in fast food restaurants, blind consumers now also have to contend with
> inaccessible laundry card vending machines in laundrimats, fare card
> machines in subway stations  and self-service check-out scanners in
> stores like CVS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>
>
>> So, this is not a new idea.  We've talked about it both in the NFBCS
>> division and the Research and development committee.
>>
>> It's a very difficult hill to summit.
>>
>> You can either fragment the problem, and try to convince each flat
> screen
>> appliance manufacturer, appliances include these drink machines, to
> make
>> their own app that controls their appliance.  You also meed to
> convince
>> them to make the app accessible, and to keep the features of the app
> in
>> parity with the features you get from using the machine without an
> app.
>>
>> Or, you can centralize the problem and try to get all appliance
>> manufacturers to agree on a standard communications system among
> mobile
>> devices and appliances, so that one app can be developed that uses
> this
>> standard system and control all the appliances that use it.
>>
>> So far, there has been little traction on either front.
>>
>> Sorry to deliver bad news on a Friday afternoon, I just wanted to move
> the
>> conversation forward to the current state the world :)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:59:57PM -0700, Drew Hunthausen via
>> Electronics-talk wrote:
>>> I haven't seen one of these yet, but I wonder if there could be some
> kind
>>> of
>>> software or app created to allow smart phones to access the machine
>>> wirelessly, select what they want and pay for it all by the phone.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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> On
>>> Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:00 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Brett Boyer
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
>>>
>>> Hey guys. I don't know how many of you have seen these new
> touch-screen
>>> drink machines.
>>>
>>> These are the machines that are completely flat screen, and have
> pages
>>> and
>>> pages of drinks and/or flavors to make your own combinations.
>>>
>>> They are very cool but I haven not been able to find a way for blind
>>> peple
>>> to access them independently. I am pretty pissed that I can't get up
> and
>>> get
>>> my own drink anymore without having a sighted person or an employee
> waste
>>> time by helping me scroll through pages of flavors just to get a
> drink!
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas about this or anything we could do to get these
>>> machines accessible?
>>>
>>> I hope this isn't off topic
>>>
>>> bb
>>>
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