[Electronics-Talk] Electronics-Talk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11
Arlene
arlenes71154 at earthlink.net
Mon Dec 12 21:12:06 UTC 2016
Laury, it is the Samsung un32j5500afxza. We purchased the tv from best buy
a little over a week ago, we got the 32 inch. At that time the tv was on
sale for $219. The regular price for the tv is $280. One of the mikes on
here on the list told all of us about the tv almost 2 weeks ago and we were
so excited about hearing about it that about 3 or 4 days later we purchased
the tv. We're just watching the over the air tv channels with it. We're
going to do a demonstration of the tv sometime soon to show a number of
things we've learned and what it's like. It talks everything and the voice
is pleasant sounding. Here's some of what Mike told us on the list and a
question he answered me, the first day we got it and we were setting it up:
From: "Mike via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Mike" <mrmikie273 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: [Electronics-Talk] I am liking my Samsung tv with voice guide!
It is going well with my Samsung 32 inch tv with voice guide! I am using an
over the air antenna. For the first time I can scan stations in, remove
stations from the line up I do not want & a thousdan other settings without
any sighted help!
You only have to know were 6 buttons are on the remote & then any totally
blind person can set this tv up right out of ; the box.
Mike
From: "Mike via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Mike" <mrmikie273 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] I am liking my Samsung tv with voice guide!
Samsung un32j5500afxza this the 32 inch tv that is the smallest one I found
with
voice guide. They have larger!
Mike
From: "Mike via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Mike" <mrmikie273 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] I am liking my Samsung tv with voice guide!
I bought on sale 7 days ago at best buy for $239
From: Mike
To: 'Arlene'
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: question about your new samsung tv
Hello Arlen
Here goes I will try to give you those buttons.
When you have the remote pointed at the tv. The top left button is power. It
has
2 little dots on the left side of it. To turn voice guide on. 4 rows from
bottom
center button is cc. ccthis is were voice guide is. Next enter is 7 rowes
from bottom.
Enter button has 2 dots on it. The arrow keys surround the enter button.
After you get the tv set up go back into cc button. Arrow down to learn
remote! If
you want to learn remote..
Mike
Arlene
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From: "Laury-Johnson,Shawnese (LARA) via Electronics-Talk"
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Cc: "Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)" <laury-johnsons at michigan.gov>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Electronics-Talk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11
> What is The model of the television that is accessible for us bye Samsung?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Question About Voice Guideance and Recording. (cheez)
>> 2. xfinity phone service (Jude DaShiell)
>> 3. Mini Jambox stopped talking? (Mike)
>> 4. Re: Mini Jambox stopped talking? (Mike Freeman)
>> 5. Re: xfinity phone service (cheez)
>> 6. Re: xfinity phone service (Jude DaShiell)
>> 7. Re: xfinity phone service (Mike Freeman)
>> 8. trying to figure out buttons on Beats solo 2 headphones!
>> (Gail the U. S. Male)
>> 9. samsung tv with voice guide about setting the description (Arlene)
>> 10. Re: samsung tv with voice guide about setting the description
>> (Ray Foret jr)
>> 11. Re: Question About Voice Guideance and Recording.
>> (Pamela Dominguez)
>> 12. Re: samsung tv with voice guide about setting the description
>> (Arlene)
>> 13. Re: samsung tv with voice guide about setting the description
>> (Ray Foret jr)
>> 14. Re: samsung tv with voice guide about setting the description
>> (Gerald Levy )
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 06:03:12 -0700
>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>> To: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>, "Discussion of accessible
>> home electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>> Recording.
>> Message-ID: <6B226FFB577A4C99A8EE0F3BB88D61B8 at home9129835e24>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> You remember those days when you could hear the high-pitched squeal of a
>> TV
>> screen when it was on? I miss those days.
>>
>> Too bad you don't have a smartphone. The app, BeSpecular would work for
>> finding out if your TV is on or not.
>>
>> Also, you can unplug the TV. That would ensure you it is off, then.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>> Recording.
>>
>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Maybe that is what happened to me today. I was enjoying myself
>>> exploring
>>> the movies and suddenly everything went silent. I don't know if I hit a
>>> wrong button. As I said before my multiple sclerosis causes dexterity
>>> issues and numbness in my fingers. All the buttons on the remote are
>>> quite close with no spaces in between so hitting a wrong button is very
>>> possible. With my old remote I can use the large print version which has
>>> bigger buttons and they are spread far apart. Also there are less
>>> buttons
>>> on the simple remote. Now that everything is gone I cannot even tell if
>>> my TV is on or not because it is so quiet. I know this is still in the
>>> testing phase but, this is not good. With this in mind, I just might
>>> have
>>> it taken out since this level of service is more expensive than I can
>>> really afford. I thought I would give it a try for a short discount
>>> promotion in my area but if it is going to go all silent so I cannot
>>> even
>>> watch the local news, then I do not want it. I suppose they will try
>>> and
>>> charge me another $70 service call to come out again. I do not have
>>> access to any other sighted help.
>>>
>>> Sandra
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:30 PM
>>> To: Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>>> Cc: Jude DaShiell
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>>> Recording.
>>>
>>> The other night I was channel surfing with the arrow keys on the side of
>>> the remote with voice guideance turned on and for some strange reason
>>> discovered a few things.
>>> First if you start surfing on channel 2 and go down so you wrap around
>>> to the highest channel numbers you're going to hit unsubscribed channels
>>> unless you subscribed to the highest tier of service.
>>> Second, voice guideance does not give you the opportunity to subscribe
>>> to those channels it asks you to wait a moment and the notification
>>> comes through speaking very fast so it's a cut off message too.
>>> Third sooner rather than later you're going to wipe out. By wipe out I
>>> mean everything turns off both tv and set top box and when you try to
>>> turn them back on you'll find your channels got wiped out of your box
>>> and you can't turn voice guideance on any more. Eventually I'll get
>>> sighted assistance to sort this mess out and set the cable box and TV up
>>> again but that's why comcast calls voice guideance beta software. Those
>>> using voice guideance, especially if you don't have eyes nearby, be
>>> careful out there and report bugs to comcast accessibility!
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016, Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 13:17:24
>>>> From: Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Barbara O'Connor <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>>>> Recording.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ray, I did adjust the time so we'll see what happens. I won't know
>>>> until next week as the shows that were affected by the problem or on
>>>> Wednesday/Thursday. Thanks for your help. I hope it works.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Ray Foret jr via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Given your description of what happend to you, I?d advise extending
>>>>> the
>>>>> end time a little. Best and I think maybe the only way to solve your
>>>>> delema.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not believe you will hurt the recording time of the other shows
>>>>> by
>>>>> doing this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>>> blind built-in
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>>
>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>>>>> Wireless
>>>>> iPhone7 and Apple TV user!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Barb O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bear with me as I'm going to try to explain this the best I can. I'm
>>>>>> sure someone on this list can help me and, if not, I'll call the
>>>>>> Comcast line for people with disabilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used my Comcast Remote and said, "Sports Jeopardy". It found it for
>>>>>> me so I went to the record options and chose new episodes only. I
>>>>>> confirmed what I needed to. I started watching and, the episodes that
>>>>>> were recorded Sunday Evening from 10:00 PM. to 11:00 PM. Central time
>>>>>> were just fine. When it recorded episodes on Wednesday/Thursday, and
>>>>>> there were 3 episodes, the timing wasn't correct. Apparently the show
>>>>>> that was on before Sports Jeopardy ran over. As I wanted to watch the
>>>>>> episodes in the proper order, I used the right arrow key to get to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first episode. I had to forward through the previous show that
>>>>>> apparently ran over and then start watching. Of course, the Jeopardy
>>>>>> program ran out of time but when I deleted that episode and moved to
>>>>>> the next, it picked up where it left off and I got to see the end of
>>>>>> the first recording as well as part of the next Jeopardy. Naturally,
>>>>>> when it came to the last episode for the evening, I didn't see the
>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you can adjust the end time but I hate to do that on the shows
>>>>>> that are working alright. Is there anything else I can do so as not
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> throw off the whole recording process for these shows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume, if there isn't, I'm just going to have to extend the time
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> hope for the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for anyone's opinion on this issue. I look forward to your
>>>>>> response and, thanks for reading this long email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barb
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:17:36 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>> Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.20.1612111210030.9861 at panix1.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> With voice guideance I hear notifications of incoming phone calls that's
>> when voice guideance is working. What I don't hear are rings since power
>> going out the router port is too low to cause the phone to ring and
>> xfinity cannot make the TV speaker ring. I'm interested to know if some
>> electronics exists I can attach to the router and plug the phone line
>> into
>> the other side that would increase the voltage to the phone when there is
>> a ring coming over the line. I returned a phone with voicemail on it and
>> had xfinity remove my voicemail since too many people are complaining
>> they
>> can't reach me. Part of this is on xfinity since the installer wouldn't
>> put an ethernet drop near my computer so I have to use wifi and the
>> router
>> and the phone are two rooms away. Also I have two cats and one of them
>> likes to snack on android charging cables and especially likes iPhone
>> lightning cables so I have to keep the cats out of the area with the
>> computers in it which much of the time means closed doors.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 15:42:11 -0500
>> From: "Mike" <mrmikie273 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Mini Jambox stopped talking?
>> Message-ID: <000f01d253ef$0cd831f0$268895d0$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> My mini Jambox still will chnnect but does not talk any more or make that
>> boot up sound! Have tried powering down while holding +. Like stated in
>> manual. But that did not work. Any ideas? Have tried to contact Jambox.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 15:06:41 -0800
>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Mini Jambox stopped talking?
>> Message-ID: <6FCBAFFB-5F9F-4F62-BBB3-60C5E42EE036 at panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Think you're going to have to buy a new speaker. My jam boxwon't pair up
>> anymore. So it's just the opposite problem. But the speakers fail every
>> once in a while.
>>
>> Mike Freeman K7UIJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 12:42, Mike via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> My mini Jambox still will chnnect but does not talk any more or make
>>> that
>>> boot up sound! Have tried powering down while holding +. Like stated in
>>> manual. But that did not work. Any ideas? Have tried to contact Jambox.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:10:57 -0700
>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>> Message-ID: <01417DD1964544B98258836917824D8B at home9129835e24>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Best solution. 86 the cats. Life will go on.
>> If you don't like my solution, then I'll invest in lightning cables and
>> chargers.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:17 AM
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>>
>>
>>> With voice guideance I hear notifications of incoming phone calls that's
>>> when voice guideance is working. What I don't hear are rings since
>>> power
>>> going out the router port is too low to cause the phone to ring and
>>> xfinity cannot make the TV speaker ring. I'm interested to know if some
>>> electronics exists I can attach to the router and plug the phone line
>>> into
>>> the other side that would increase the voltage to the phone when there
>>> is
>>> a ring coming over the line. I returned a phone with voicemail on it
>>> and
>>> had xfinity remove my voicemail since too many people are complaining
>>> they
>>> can't reach me. Part of this is on xfinity since the installer wouldn't
>>> put an ethernet drop near my computer so I have to use wifi and the
>>> router
>>> and the phone are two rooms away. Also I have two cats and one of them
>>> likes to snack on android charging cables and especially likes iPhone
>>> lightning cables so I have to keep the cats out of the area with the
>>> computers in it which much of the time means closed doors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:24:06 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> To: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>> Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.20.1612111821390.27731 at panix1.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> There is reason for cats here, specifically mice and these weren't sold
>> by
>> Microsoft either. Mice if given a chance can ruin a house's whole
>> electrical system. On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:10:57
>>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>>>
>>> Best solution. 86 the cats. Life will go on.
>>> If you don't like my solution, then I'll invest in lightning cables and
>>> chargers.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:17 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>>>
>>>
>>>> With voice guideance I hear notifications of incoming phone calls
>>>> that's
>>>> when voice guideance is working. What I don't hear are rings since
>>>> power
>>>> going out the router port is too low to cause the phone to ring and
>>>> xfinity
>>>> cannot make the TV speaker ring. I'm interested to know if some
>>>> electronics exists I can attach to the router and plug the phone line
>>>> into
>>>> the other side that would increase the voltage to the phone when there
>>>> is a
>>>> ring coming over the line. I returned a phone with voicemail on it and
>>>> had
>>>> xfinity remove my voicemail since too many people are complaining they
>>>> can't reach me. Part of this is on xfinity since the installer
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> put an ethernet drop near my computer so I have to use wifi and the
>>>> router
>>>> and the phone are two rooms away. Also I have two cats and one of them
>>>> likes to snack on android charging cables and especially likes iPhone
>>>> lightning cables so I have to keep the cats out of the area with the
>>>> computers in it which much of the time means closed doors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:04:13 -0800
>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>> Message-ID: <385501A0-0B95-4BCA-B5B4-42AD4D7A2688 at panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Mice are great at eating away insulation on extension cords going to an
>> RV, too!
>>
>> Mike Freeman K7UIJ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 15:24, Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is reason for cats here, specifically mice and these weren't sold
>>> by Microsoft either. Mice if given a chance can ruin a house's whole
>>> electrical system. On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:10:57
>>>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>>>>
>>>> Best solution. 86 the cats. Life will go on.
>>>> If you don't like my solution, then I'll invest in lightning cables and
>>>> chargers.
>>>>
>>>> Vince
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:17 AM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] xfinity phone service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> With voice guideance I hear notifications of incoming phone calls
>>>>> that's when voice guideance is working. What I don't hear are rings
>>>>> since power going out the router port is too low to cause the phone to
>>>>> ring and xfinity cannot make the TV speaker ring. I'm interested to
>>>>> know if some electronics exists I can attach to the router and plug
>>>>> the phone line into the other side that would increase the voltage to
>>>>> the phone when there is a ring coming over the line. I returned a
>>>>> phone with voicemail on it and had xfinity remove my voicemail since
>>>>> too many people are complaining they can't reach me. Part of this is
>>>>> on xfinity since the installer wouldn't put an ethernet drop near my
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>>>>> rooms away. Also I have two cats and one of them likes to snack on
>>>>> android charging cables and especially likes iPhone lightning cables
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:00:28 -0600
>> From: "Gail the U. S. Male" <gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] trying to figure out buttons on Beats solo
>> 2 headphones!
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hello, do any of you own a set of Beats Solo 2 headphones? These are both
>> Bluetooth, and wired. I just bought a set, and I can't quite figure out
>> the
>> buttons! If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:22:54 -0600
>> From: "Arlene" <arlenes71154 at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about setting
>> the description
>> Message-ID: <6FDE2622268E46C883C82856BC27BD81 at love>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Last saturday we purchased the samsung tv with voice guide, the same tv
>> that Mike told us about here on the list. It's really wonderful, it talks
>> everything. So far the only thing that we haven't been able to set right
>> is the description for the described shows. As far as we can tell
>> everything that needs to be on is on, and on shows that are described so
>> far we haven't heard the description unless there's something else we
>> missed.Mike, I'm wondering if you tried to watch any described shows or
>> watched any described shows yet? If anyone has any idea of something
>> we've missed in setting the description up, please let us know. Thank
>> you.
>>
>> Arlene
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:13:34 -0600
>> From: Ray Foret jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>> setting the description
>> Message-ID: <1805448A-8D05-45B4-A6F4-EC6796259A30 at comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Bear in mind that although you may have correctly set the tV itself for
>> description, you want to make sure the local stations in your market are
>> actually carrying the SAP channel out of the transmitter. Some are, some
>> still are not. IF you have your TV set up and hooked up to a cable box,
>> this changes everything. Why? Because it now depends on two factors.
>>
>> 1. Are the local stations actually passing through the SAP channel?
>>
>> 2. Is your local cable company actually carrying the SAP channel that
>> the local stations transmit?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>>
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Last saturday we purchased the samsung tv with voice guide, the same tv
>>> that Mike told us about here on the list. It's really wonderful, it
>>> talks everything. So far the only thing that we haven't been able to set
>>> right is the description for the described shows. As far as we can tell
>>> everything that needs to be on is on, and on shows that are described so
>>> far we haven't heard the description unless there's something else we
>>> missed.Mike, I'm wondering if you tried to watch any described shows or
>>> watched any described shows yet? If anyone has any idea of something
>>> we've missed in setting the description up, please let us know. Thank
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Arlene
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:27:57 -0500
>> From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
>> To: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>, "Discussion of accessible
>> home electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>> Recording.
>> Message-ID: <A26EEBFF54AC4457AF9BFAD2DFF28E9E at PamPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> If you got this box because you are blind, they should not be charging
>> you
>> full price for the service. They are supposed to charge you for the
>> level
>> of service you were having before you got the expensive box. Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 11:00 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: S L Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>> Recording.
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Maybe that is what happened to me today. I was enjoying myself exploring
>> the movies and suddenly everything went silent. I don't know if I hit a
>> wrong button. As I said before my multiple sclerosis causes dexterity
>> issues and numbness in my fingers. All the buttons on the remote are
>> quite
>> close with no spaces in between so hitting a wrong button is very
>> possible.
>> With my old remote I can use the large print version which has bigger
>> buttons and they are spread far apart. Also there are less buttons on
>> the
>> simple remote. Now that everything is gone I cannot even tell if my TV
>> is
>> on or not because it is so quiet. I know this is still in the testing
>> phase
>> but, this is not good. With this in mind, I just might have it taken out
>> since this level of service is more expensive than I can really afford.
>> I
>> thought I would give it a try for a short discount promotion in my area
>> but
>> if it is going to go all silent so I cannot even watch the local news,
>> then
>> I do not want it. I suppose they will try and charge me another $70
>> service
>> call to come out again. I do not have access to any other sighted help.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:30 PM
>> To: Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>> Cc: Jude DaShiell
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>> Recording.
>>
>> The other night I was channel surfing with the arrow keys on the side of
>> the remote with voice guideance turned on and for some strange reason
>> discovered a few things.
>> First if you start surfing on channel 2 and go down so you wrap around
>> to the highest channel numbers you're going to hit unsubscribed channels
>> unless you subscribed to the highest tier of service.
>> Second, voice guideance does not give you the opportunity to subscribe
>> to those channels it asks you to wait a moment and the notification
>> comes through speaking very fast so it's a cut off message too.
>> Third sooner rather than later you're going to wipe out. By wipe out I
>> mean everything turns off both tv and set top box and when you try to
>> turn them back on you'll find your channels got wiped out of your box
>> and you can't turn voice guideance on any more. Eventually I'll get
>> sighted assistance to sort this mess out and set the cable box and TV up
>> again but that's why comcast calls voice guideance beta software. Those
>> using voice guideance, especially if you don't have eyes nearby, be
>> careful out there and report bugs to comcast accessibility!
>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016, Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 13:17:24
>>> From: Barbara O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Barbara O'Connor <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Question About Voice Guideance and
>>> Recording.
>>>
>>> Hi Ray, I did adjust the time so we'll see what happens. I won't know
>>> until next week as the shows that were affected by the problem or on
>>> Wednesday/Thursday. Thanks for your help. I hope it works.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Ray Foret jr via Electronics-Talk
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given your description of what happend to you, I?d advise extending the
>>>> end time a little. Best and I think maybe the only way to solve your
>>>> delema.
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe you will hurt the recording time of the other shows by
>>>> doing this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>> blind
>>>> built-in
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>
>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>>>> Wireless
>>>> iPhone7 and Apple TV user!
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Barb O'Connor via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bear with me as I'm going to try to explain this the best I can. I'm
>>>>> sure someone on this list can help me and, if not, I'll call the
>>>>> Comcast
>>>>> line for people with disabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used my Comcast Remote and said, "Sports Jeopardy". It found it for
>>>>> me
>>>>> so I went to the record options and chose new episodes only. I
>>>>> confirmed
>>>>> what I needed to. I started watching and, the episodes that were
>>>>> recorded Sunday Evening from 10:00 PM. to 11:00 PM. Central time were
>>>>> just fine. When it recorded episodes on Wednesday/Thursday, and there
>>>>> were 3 episodes, the timing wasn't correct. Apparently the show that
>>>>> was
>>>>> on before Sports Jeopardy ran over. As I wanted to watch the episodes
>>>>> in
>>>>> the proper order, I used the right arrow key to get to the first
>>>>> episode. I had to forward through the previous show that apparently
>>>>> ran
>>>>> over and then start watching. Of course, the Jeopardy program ran out
>>>>> of
>>>>> time but when I deleted that episode and moved to the next, it picked
>>>>> up
>>>>> where it left off and I got to see the end of the first recording as
>>>>> well as part of the next Jeopardy. Naturally, when it came to the last
>>>>> episode for the evening, I didn't see the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you can adjust the end time but I hate to do that on the shows
>>>>> that are working alright. Is there anything else I can do so as not to
>>>>> throw off the whole recording process for these shows?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume, if there isn't, I'm just going to have to extend the time
>>>>> and
>>>>> hope for the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for anyone's opinion on this issue. I look forward to your
>>>>> response and, thanks for reading this long email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barb
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:09:52 -0600
>> From: "Arlene" <arlenes71154 at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>> setting the description
>> Message-ID: <3DF89B36A8D748009DE53FD53F060F45 at love>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Ray, I never considered either one of these points about the sap
>> channel..
>> That's something I would have to find out about somehow. To be more
>> specific, right now, both of these 2 new tvs we haven't hooked them up to
>> dish which is what we have for tv service, so we watch the over the air
>> tv
>> channels with these tvs. Actually we did hook it up to the dish to see
>> how
>> it would be. we can't really use these tvs with our dish
>> service, somehow it doesn't recognize the dish service. We don't have the
>> cox cable service which is in our area that has something very much like
>> comcast does with the voice guide. I don't know how our tvs would work
>> with
>> a system like that since our tvs already has the voice guide in it. I'm
>> so
>> glad you pointed out about the sap channels, As I said I never considered
>> that possibly it wouldn't broadcast with my local channels. I probably
>> didn't explain that quite right. I Just took it for granted that I would
>> be
>> able to access the sap channel. I've had other tvs before that I probably
>> could have gotten access to the describing, I didn't always have someone
>> to
>> assist me with it. With a tv like these, we can do that. So now somehow
>> I've
>> got to find out about the broadcasting of the sap channel. Again thanks
>> for
>> pointing that out.
>>
>> Arlene----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray Foret jr via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Ray Foret jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about setting
>> the description
>>
>>
>>> Bear in mind that although you may have correctly set the tV itself for
>>> description, you want to make sure the local stations in your market are
>>> actually carrying the SAP channel out of the transmitter. Some are,
>>> some
>>> still are not. IF you have your TV set up and hooked up to a cable box,
>>> this changes everything. Why? Because it now depends on two factors.
>>>
>>> 1. Are the local stations actually passing through the SAP channel?
>>>
>>> 2. Is your local cable company actually carrying the SAP channel that
>>> the
>>> local stations transmit?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind
>>> built-in
>>>
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>
>>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Last saturday we purchased the samsung tv with voice guide, the same tv
>>>> that Mike told us about here on the list. It's really wonderful, it
>>>> talks
>>>> everything. So far the only thing that we haven't been able to set
>>>> right
>>>> is the description for the described shows. As far as we can tell
>>>> everything that needs to be on is on, and on shows that are described
>>>> so
>>>> far we haven't heard the description unless there's something else we
>>>> missed.Mike, I'm wondering if you tried to watch any described shows or
>>>> watched any described shows yet? If anyone has any idea of something
>>>> we've missed in setting the description up, please let us know. Thank
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Arlene
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:39:27 -0600
>> From: Ray Foret jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>> setting the description
>> Message-ID: <11AC28D3-552D-436A-82A8-085487C2B571 at comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Let me make a couple of extra points here. The reason you can?t seem to
>> get your TV to work with dish is because your inputs are not set up
>> correctly. You need to ensure that you have an HDMI cable running from
>> the HDMI output on the back of your dish box in to one of the HDMI inputs
>> on your TV. Now, make sure the inputs on your TV are set to receive from
>> that HDMI cable. I garanntee that will fix it for you. Keep something
>> in mind however. IF you do choose to go this rout, you may or may not
>> have access to description because the owner of Dish Network is being a
>> bit of an ass and refuses to carry it. So, you?d actually be better off
>> going from a direct antenna and watching your locals like that. That?s
>> the better option anyhow due to the fact that if you watch them that way,
>> there is no data stripping involved like there is with Dish.
>>
>> Now, here?s how you find out about the local SAP channels. You need to
>> call your stations and ask to speak directly with the audio ingeeneer and
>> explain what you?re after. IF they?re on the ball, the ingeneer should
>> be able to tell you whether or not SAP is carried on their channel. IF
>> your market falls inside the top 60 markets in the country, carrying
>> description is required. It used to be just the top twenty five:
>> however, as of this past July, it became the top sixty.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>>
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 5:09 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ray, I never considered either one of these points about the sap
>>> channel.. That's something I would have to find out about somehow. To be
>>> more specific, right now, both of these 2 new tvs we haven't hooked them
>>> up to dish which is what we have for tv service, so we watch the over
>>> the air tv channels with these tvs. Actually we did hook it up to the
>>> dish to see how it would be. we can't really use these tvs with our dish
>>> service, somehow it doesn't recognize the dish service. We don't have
>>> the cox cable service which is in our area that has something very much
>>> like comcast does with the voice guide. I don't know how our tvs would
>>> work with a system like that since our tvs already has the voice guide
>>> in it. I'm so glad you pointed out about the sap channels, As I said I
>>> never considered that possibly it wouldn't broadcast with my local
>>> channels. I probably didn't explain that quite right. I Just took it for
>>> granted that I would be able to access the sap channel. I've had other
>>> tvs before that I probably could have gotten access to the describing, I
>>> didn't always have someone to assist me with it. With a tv like these,
>>> we can do that. So now somehow I've got to find out about the
>>> broadcasting of the sap channel. Again thanks for pointing that out.
>>>
>>> Arlene----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr via
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Ray Foret jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>>> setting the description
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that although you may have correctly set the tV itself for
>>>> description, you want to make sure the local stations in your market
>>>> are actually carrying the SAP channel out of the transmitter. Some
>>>> are, some still are not. IF you have your TV set up and hooked up to a
>>>> cable box, this changes everything. Why? Because it now depends on
>>>> two factors.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Are the local stations actually passing through the SAP channel?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is your local cable company actually carrying the SAP channel that
>>>> the local stations transmit?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>> blind built-in
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>
>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Last saturday we purchased the samsung tv with voice guide, the same
>>>>> tv that Mike told us about here on the list. It's really wonderful, it
>>>>> talks everything. So far the only thing that we haven't been able to
>>>>> set right is the description for the described shows. As far as we can
>>>>> tell everything that needs to be on is on, and on shows that are
>>>>> described so far we haven't heard the description unless there's
>>>>> something else we missed.Mike, I'm wondering if you tried to watch any
>>>>> described shows or watched any described shows yet? If anyone has any
>>>>> idea of something we've missed in setting the description up, please
>>>>> let us know. Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arlene
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 06:54:02 -0500
>> From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>> setting the description
>> Message-ID: <048AB58DBD204BC8B87C70B56FD2427D at CFTB7664>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8;
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>>
>>
>> But in many major markets with large Latino populations, local TV
>> stations
>> are more likely to carry Spanish language soundtracks on the SAP channel
>> rather than descriptive audio, regardless of FCC rules. Keep in mind
>> that
>> the FCC is likely to undergo major changes under the Trump
>> administration,
>> which favors less government regulation of big business.
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ray Foret jr via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:39 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Ray Foret jr
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about setting
>> the description
>>
>> Let me make a couple of extra points here. The reason you can?t seem to
>> get
>> your TV to work with dish is because your inputs are not set up
>> correctly.
>> You need to ensure that you have an HDMI cable running from the HDMI
>> output
>> on the back of your dish box in to one of the HDMI inputs on your TV.
>> Now,
>> make sure the inputs on your TV are set to receive from that HDMI cable.
>> I
>> garanntee that will fix it for you. Keep something in mind however. IF
>> you
>> do choose to go this rout, you may or may not have access to description
>> because the owner of Dish Network is being a bit of an ass and refuses to
>> carry it. So, you?d actually be better off going from a direct antenna
>> and
>> watching your locals like that. That?s the better option anyhow due to
>> the
>> fact that if you watch them that way, there is no data stripping involved
>> like there is with Dish.
>>
>> Now, here?s how you find out about the local SAP channels. You need to
>> call
>> your stations and ask to speak directly with the audio ingeeneer and
>> explain
>> what you?re after. IF they?re on the ball, the ingeneer should be able
>> to
>> tell you whether or not SAP is carried on their channel. IF your market
>> falls inside the top 60 markets in the country, carrying description is
>> required. It used to be just the top twenty five: however, as of this
>> past
>> July, it became the top sixty.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>>
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 5:09 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ray, I never considered either one of these points about the sap
>>> channel..
>>> That's something I would have to find out about somehow. To be more
>>> specific, right now, both of these 2 new tvs we haven't hooked them up
>>> to
>>> dish which is what we have for tv service, so we watch the over the air
>>> tv
>>> channels with these tvs. Actually we did hook it up to the dish to see
>>> how it would be. we can't really use these tvs with our dish
>>> service, somehow it doesn't recognize the dish service. We don't have
>>> the
>>> cox cable service which is in our area that has something very much like
>>> comcast does with the voice guide. I don't know how our tvs would work
>>> with a system like that since our tvs already has the voice guide in it.
>>> I'm so glad you pointed out about the sap channels, As I said I never
>>> considered that possibly it wouldn't broadcast with my local channels. I
>>> probably didn't explain that quite right. I Just took it for granted
>>> that
>>> I would be able to access the sap channel. I've had other tvs before
>>> that
>>> I probably could have gotten access to the describing, I didn't always
>>> have someone to assist me with it. With a tv like these, we can do that.
>>> So now somehow I've got to find out about the broadcasting of the sap
>>> channel. Again thanks for pointing that out.
>>>
>>> Arlene----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr via
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Ray Foret jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] samsung tv with voice guide about
>>> setting
>>> the description
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that although you may have correctly set the tV itself for
>>>> description, you want to make sure the local stations in your market
>>>> are
>>>> actually carrying the SAP channel out of the transmitter. Some are,
>>>> some
>>>> still are not. IF you have your TV set up and hooked up to a cable
>>>> box,
>>>> this changes everything. Why? Because it now depends on two factors.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Are the local stations actually passing through the SAP channel?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is your local cable company actually carrying the SAP channel that
>>>> the local stations transmit?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>> blind
>>>> built-in
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>
>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>>>> Wireless
>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Last saturday we purchased the samsung tv with voice guide, the same
>>>>> tv
>>>>> that Mike told us about here on the list. It's really wonderful, it
>>>>> talks everything. So far the only thing that we haven't been able to
>>>>> set
>>>>> right is the description for the described shows. As far as we can
>>>>> tell
>>>>> everything that needs to be on is on, and on shows that are described
>>>>> so
>>>>> far we haven't heard the description unless there's something else we
>>>>> missed.Mike, I'm wondering if you tried to watch any described shows
>>>>> or
>>>>> watched any described shows yet? If anyone has any idea of something
>>>>> we've missed in setting the description up, please let us know. Thank
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arlene
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