[Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility

Mon Feb 15 19:02:40 UTC 2016

When dealing with electronics a nice to have would be a human reader 
with background in the field.  Sometimes reading material is that 
complex that a good background in a particular field gets essential real 
fast and this doesn't apply only to electronics either.
Two examples I encountered made this point very clearly and both 
happened while I was in College.
Recording for the blind used the services of human readers on a cobol 
book and I was having trouble understanding what was being described so 
asked the professor to listen to a little of the explanation and was 
immediately told that reader has no computer background and shouldn't 
have been given that book to read then the professor explained the 
information correctly for me.
A second time this happened was with a book on Economics.  The reader 
went into a long technical description at Calculus level of describing a 
break even line.  When my Economics professor heard that reading he told 
me to disregard it since a 45 degree line passing through a graph's 
origin and through1,1 2,2 and so on and through -1,-1 and -2,-2 and so 
on was a break even line.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Mike Freeman via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:23:33
> From: Mike Freeman via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> 
> Which proves my point that since we are a minority in a world structured for
> the majority -- the sighted -- we should expect to accommodate to the usual
> methods of communication by the sighted. That is, every one of us should
> make arrangements for use of a human reader.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:03 AM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Rob Kaiser
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>
> I can't believe accessible companies would do that until I got my talking
> blood pressure machine from Maxi aides. They sent me a print instruction
> manual. I called them & was told that they didn't have a Braille instruction
> book.
>
> Rob Kaiser
> Email;
> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>
>
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> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>
> That makes sense, Gerald.  Just like companies that sell products for the
> blind and visually-impaired only sending printed instructions for the item.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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> Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
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>
>>
>> Time Warner's idea of accessibility is to offer large-button remote
>> control units to visually impaired customers on request.  Isn't that swell
>
>> of them?
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Merv Keck via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:02 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Merv Keck
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have Brighthouse. Their idea of accessibility is if you are blind you
>> can
>> call them and they will read your bill over the phone for you. Laughs!
>> Seriously that is what their web site actually says under accessibility.
>> That and they have wheelchair ramps at the bill paying sites.
>> I gave up the DVR because their iPhone app will allow me to set up the
>> recording of a program but once that program was recorded I had no way of
>> accessing the recording on either the DVR or the iPhone. So I might have
>> 20
>> programs on the DVR but the only way I could find which one I was looking
>> for was to start each program until I found what I was looking for.
>> Obviously in a TV series that didn't work for viewing a series in order.
>> So
>> I decided to save the money and get a standard box.
>> I have a sixty inch HDTV but I never watch it because it is too much of a
>> pain trying to find something and I can no longer see the screen as of
>> about
>> 14 months ago now anyway.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:46 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Brent Harding <brent at hostany.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>
>> I wish Time Warner would come out with something as well. I would really
>> like to have a DVR that I can control. I'm not in a part of town where
>> Uverse is available like I was when it first came out in other parts of
>> town. I had to remember a little bit of menu options, but I could schedule
>> the recordings online back then, but that system had a dedicated DVR
>> button
>> that only brought up previous recordings.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:05 AM
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>
>>
>>> My husband has been calling Cablevision for years to talk about
>>> accessibility.  Within the last couple months, they've actually started
>>> to
>>> respond, and he's been talking to one of their developers about ways to
>>> improve the accessibility of their website and app.  She says they will
>>> have
>>> significant improvements within this year.
>>>
>>> If we can use their app or website to do things like program the DVR,
>>> that
>>> would be a big improvement.  Progress is slow, but we feel like we're
>>> starting to get somewhere.  My man's consistent complaining may be paying
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Go thou and do likewise.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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