[Electronics-Talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: dishwashers

Tue Jan 26 19:01:04 UTC 2016

Just so that you understand, Co-op City in the Bronx is a Mitchell-Lama 
housing development that accepts Section 8 tenants.  It is by no means 
similar in any way, shape or form to the market-rate luxury co-ops that 
prevail in Manhattan.  I would never want to live in Co-op city because it 
has become beset by crime much like a city housing project and is located in 
an area that is poorly served by public transportation. It is no longer a 
haven for the middle-class like it was when it opened about 50 years ago.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: dishwashers

I don't know where you get that one.  I know of a blind person who lived in
co'op city.  You are so down on everything.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: dishwashers

Well, I didn't win the billion dollar power ball lottery drawing last week,
so I don't happen to have a measily $2 million laying around to buy a co-op
or condo with built-in kitchen appliances or at least a large enough kitchen
to install my own appliances.  That's what the average one-bedroom co-op
costs here in Manhattan.  Besides, there isn't a co-op board in the city
that would approve a blind senior for residency, no matter how much money he
has.  So I'm at the mercy of my landlord here in my rent-controlled
apartment, which is at least somewhat affordable, given my modest financial
means.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:26 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: dishwashers

Unfortunately, the apartment laundry room scenario that you describe is
all too common, and the only suggestion that I would have is to try to
find an apartment that is designed in such a way as to allow you to
install your own appliances, but I realize that this setup may be
difficult to find, and if you do find it, the apartment may be
expensive. I did find one once, and was also fortunate that the previous
tenants left their appliances behind when they moved.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:30 AM
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Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Electronics-Talk] dishwashers

Unfortunately, it is difficult to find appliances these days that still
use mechanical pushbuttons and knobs.  Soft touch electronic pushbuttons
seem to be the norm, and unless they emit an audible sound when they are
pressed, it is impossible to know whether they have been activated
without being able to see the status of the indicator lights.  I can no
longer do my own laundry in the laundry room of my apartment complex
because the washers and dryers have flat panel electronic pushbuttons
whose status is impossible to determine without sighted help, and they
use a totally inaccessible laundry card system to boot instead of coins.
Is this supposed to be "progress"?

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] dishwashers

Hi, Chris,

I lookf at dishwashers at my favorite appliance store nesterday evening.
The ones that have push buttons have just lights to indicate selected
settings.  Some of the buttons were onstoff, and others had menus.  My
old dishwashg has a row of buttons and no onscreen menus.  When you push
a button, you know that the item has been activated because the button
remains pushed down throughout the cycle.  The new dishwashers don't do
that.  I don't want to have to have someone rescct the choices I use
most Eenever there is a problem.  Are your buttons light-dependent, or
does each button remain pushed in until the cycle is finished?

Thanks.

Evelyn

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk
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Date sent: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 01:34:14 -0600
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] dishwashers

I bought a GE in 2012 that just has a row of buttons across the top.
It's perfectly accessible.  I'd suggest going to a big box store and
just checking out your different options.

aOn 25/01/16 12:29, evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk wrote:
Hi, Everyone,

I'm succenly in the market for a new dishwasher because mine would not
start and, being almost 22 years old, is likely dead.  Because it had a
row of buttons, I had to do nothing about accessibility-not even labels.
I'd be interested in your eanderiences with recent models concerning
accessibility and reliability.  Thanks in advance.

Cordially,

Evelyn

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