[Electronics-Talk] gas stoves

Wed Nov 9 14:40:44 UTC 2016

Mine and Terri's situation is the same as Annette's; in fact, we replaced a
range that had discernable arrows and otherwise worked. The problem with
that range is the problem Brad warned about, that some ranges to not return
to a fixed temperature point after use. Thus, when starting, we never knew
whether to go up or down, nor how much to do this. Our present range is like
Annette's allowing us to put in exactly the temperature we want. It is touch
sensitive, however, not pressure sensitive. At times, it can take quite some
effort to set properly as it is easy to touch an unintended control. It will
not begin though until all commands in a sequence are executed, and it will
beep warning when they are not. Also, there is enough room on the touch
panel that the controls can be approached without contact, but this does
take some practice. I think an overlay as Brad's husband created would
really be the best means of our managing our unit to but I am not handy with
power tools.
Jim  

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To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] gas stoves

Annette:

I envy you your ability to enter the temperature directly. Can I come and do
some baking in your kitchen?

You bring up a valuable point, which is that one control design 
characteristic can change what makes an appliance useful or not.

In your case, entering the temp directly eliminates the requirement that 
the oven temp return to a consistent value each time you turn it on.

Brad

On 11/7/2016 8:34 PM, Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> Hi Drew and All,
>
> While I agree with everything Brad has said, I would like to add some
> additional factors to consider when looking for a gas range with a control
> panel for the oven.
>
> My current 11 year old slide-in gas range does not have the ability to use
> an up and down arrows to set the oven temperature, nor does it preset to a
> specific temperature beyond 0.  The control panel has the numbers 1 - 9 &
0
> which allow you to enter in the exact temperature you want.  You do not
have
> to attempt to keep track of how many beeps you have heard to determine
where
> you have the oven temperature set.  I have not found this to be a problem.
>
> Because the control panel requires pressure to activate the buttons, I was
> able to place braille labels on the control panel.  In my quest for both a
> new microwave and a new range, I cannot find  either that has a pressure
> sensitive control panel.  All of them that I have found have the highly
> sensitive panel that is easily activated with the slightest touch.  This
> does not allow you to read the braille labels if there is even enough room
> to add them.
>
> Annette
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Brad Hodges via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:26 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Brad Hodges
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] gas stoves
>
> Drew and list:
>
>
> First to Jim's question, in the UK it's a "cooker" here in the States it's
a
> stove or range. I noticed that Consumer Reports uses the terms electric
> range and gas range. To my mind by either name it's a free-standing
> appliance, 30 inches wide. It most often fills an opening between kitchen
> cabinets. A range includes a cook surface and an oven.
>
>
> Less common are slide-in's and drop-in's these designs are surrounded, in
> some part, by counter tops and cabinetry. They have all controls on the
> front, because their design does not include the upright control panel
found
> on ranges.
>
>
> Since you are looking for a gas range, the issue of burner controls is
> rather simple, and works in your favor. Most all gas ranges use
conventional
> turn knobs located on the front of the appliance. Orienting yourself to
the
> burners is straight forward.
>
>
> As for controls of the oven, you will be looking for something which you
can
> plan to mark, unless you can find oven controls which have some tactile
> indication on them. I do not know of any of this kind.
>
>
> To operate your oven, typically you will touch a relatively small control
> region on the glassy surface of the control panel for Bake, or Broil. Then
> the temperature is displayed. Repeatedly touching An up and down region
> moves the temperature by 5 degree increments allowing you to set the
> temperature and lastly an OK or "bake" control starts the unit preheating.
>
>
> you are going to want to make sure that when you turn the oven off, and
then
> on again, it always returns to the same temperature setting, this is often
> 350 degrees.
>
>
> You should also be able to touch  "clear" or "cancel" to begin again if
you
> loose track of counting up or down beeps etc.
>
>
> Brands and models can differ significantly in the layout and complexity
> of the touch regions. For instance rows of digits used to set
> temperatures and advanced program settings. In my experience avoiding
> this level of complexity is advisable both from the perspective of
> marking the oven controls as well as recalling complex control sequences.
>
>
> An alternative, which I use personally, is to create a plexiglass
> template with cutouts corresponding to the various touch regions. When
> using my template, I simply hold it against the rectangular control
> panel and set the oven. I can keep the controls clean and I don't have
> to be concerned about replacing bumps or other adhesive labels which can
> come off.
>
>
> You should have the sales person connect the gas range to 110 electric
> service. This will power the controls and let you know exactly how they
> operate. I always take my trusty 50 foot extension cord when visiting
> the appliance store.
>
>
> Note, the Independence Market has 5 different sizes and shapes of bumps
> which you can use to mark your appliance. Brenda did a wonderful job of
> describing them all to me last week when I called on behalf of one of
> our Chapter members.
>
>
> Before placing your control markers make sure that there is no
> protective film on the smooth control surface
>
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2016 6:02 PM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> If you're talking about stoves, and not ranges that include electric
> ovens, what do you worry about being accessible?
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Written While on the Move
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Dear list,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for some reccomendations on any particular gas ranges that
>>> people have really liked or else what to look for when investigating the
>>> different models. I am totally blind so want something accessible
> obviously!
>>> Thanks so much
>>>
>>> Drew Hunthausen
>>>
>>>
>>>
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