[Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Tue Oct 25 20:27:21 UTC 2016

Hi,
I merely keep chargers in another room no big deal to me. As for the battery 
operated models they don't use as fast frequencies of vibration as their 
more expensive counterparts and also don't always have differing size brush 
heads or differing rates of speed or strength to deal with varying needs 
which is why there's a market for both. Just because it doesn't meet the 
needs of one doesn't mean there isn't a market use or purpose for it whether 
it's a general or specialty product for the blind I'd dare assert.
Robin

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:15 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Why spend $150 for an electric toothbrush?  I use a $15
battery-poweredPhilips Sonicare PowerUp toothbrush which is just as
effective as the more expensive rechargeable models.  The advantage of a
battery powered toothbrush is that it does not require a charging base that
takes up counter space in your bathroom.  I use a pair of rechargeable
Panasonic Eneloop AA batteries in my Sonicare and get about 4 weeks of usage
before the batteries have to be recharged. And I have two pairs of
rechargeable batteries, so while one pair is recharging, I can simply
install the other pair into  the toothbrush, and I'm good to go again right
away. It's just totally ridiculous.  Where are you supposed to keep all
those charging bases for those bathroom gadgets like electric toothbrushes,
electric shavers, hair trimmers and oral irrigators?  Nobody has yet
invented a universal charging base that can charge all the bathroom gadgets
you own.  In my case, it doesn't matter, because I have no counter space to
begin with in my tiny bathroom, and so rechargeable gadgets that require a
charging base are out of the question.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:48 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Robin Frost
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Hi,
Ah I asked because I know Sonicare was launching one too I was just curious
about that one as well.
thanks for letting us know.Robin

-----Original Message----- 
From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:02 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: cheez
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

The Oral-B Pro 5000 SmartSeries.. has an app you download.  And he app is
not accessible.  At least, not yet.
So don't waste your time downloading it.  It's not necessary.  My dentist
said I needed to start using an electric toothbrush, so I just thought it
was cool to have a bluetooth toothbrush, and since it was a $150 item, which
dropped to $85 after it being on sale and a coupon added from Amazon.com, I
got it.

Vince

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> Hi,
> Oh no which Bluetooth toothbrush app is that? I'd thought about giving 
> them a play so not the best idea then?
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:12 AM
> To: Jim Shaffer ; Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
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>
> Probably not, and if so, probably won't be easy to use.  Like my bluetooth
> sonic toothbrush's app.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:25 PM
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>
>
>>I wonder if any of those over-the-hood microwaves can be controlled by an 
>>IPhone app?
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:59 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Robin Frost
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>> Hi,
>> thanks for letting us all know.
>> Obviously had I known I'd never have posited as a potential solution.
>> I'll return to my quiet non-participatory corner now with the hope that
>> perhaps legislation could be crafted or structured negotiations could be
>> entered into in an effort to address this issue as it seems like that 
>> might
>> be the only way to impact the situation going forward.
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:30 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>> Whirlpool no longer makes braille overlays, and I'm sure GE has followed
>> suit.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> doesn't Whirlpool make braille overlays for their appliances? they used 
>>> to do so.  Perhaps a call to them might shed light on this situation?
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:37 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I am at a dead-end when it comes to finding an accessible over the
>>> range microwave.  They just do not exist.  We are left with no option 
>>> but to
>>> purchase one that I cannot use as we need the exhaust.  We cannot just
>>> replace the microwave with a traditional exhaust hood as we would have 
>>> to
>>> replace the cabinet above the range to position the hood at the required
>>> height.  Well, that is not going to happen since it is not possible to 
>>> match
>>> a new cabinets to the existing cabinets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The appliance manufacturers think that making an appliance ADA 
>>> accessible
>>> requires them to only meet physical access requirements.  Access for the
>>> blind is not even a consideration.  It is just a matter of time before
>>> access to all appliances are out of our reach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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