[Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

cheez cheez at cox.net
Wed Oct 26 03:25:06 UTC 2016 

Back atcha, Robin and thanks.

Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost


> Hi,
> I am intrigued by it and thus appreciate greatly your contributions (warm 
> smile).
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:59 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>
> Well, Gerald, I did state I got the toothbrush for $85.  And believe me, 
> had
> it not been on sale, I would have skipped that model.  And besides, other
> than the fact that I could afford to purchase such an item at that price,
> you've got to admit, bluetooth anything is pretty cool!  [smiles]
>
> As far as available space for the charging base, who says the toothbrush 
> has
> to be in the bathroom for recharging.  Since the brush can be removed, I
> could sit it on the floor to re-charge it, if I so choose.  Or, in another
> room.
>
> I've tried rechargeable batteries before, but I found they don't fully
> recharge after a while.
>
> I'm not suggesting everyone buy the same model as I did.  I think Robin 
> was
> intrigued with the bluetooth connectivity.  And, I included the price just
> in case there's someone out there that may want a device like this.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>
>
>>
>> Why spend $150 for an electric toothbrush?  I use a $15 
>> battery-poweredPhilips Sonicare PowerUp toothbrush which is just as 
>> effective as the more expensive rechargeable models.  The advantage of a 
>> battery powered toothbrush is that it does not require a charging base 
>> that takes up counter space in your bathroom.  I use a pair of 
>> rechargeable Panasonic Eneloop AA batteries in my Sonicare and get about 
>> 4 weeks of usage before the batteries have to be recharged. And I have 
>> two pairs of rechargeable batteries, so while one pair is recharging, I 
>> can simply install the other pair into  the toothbrush, and I'm good to 
>> go again right away. It's just totally ridiculous.  Where are you 
>> supposed to keep all those charging bases for those bathroom gadgets like 
>> electric toothbrushes, electric shavers, hair trimmers and oral 
>> irrigators?  Nobody has yet invented a universal charging base that can 
>> charge all the bathroom gadgets you own.  In my case, it doesn't matter, 
>> because I have no counter space to begin with in my tiny bathroom, and so 
>> rechargeable gadgets that require a charging base are out of the 
>> question.
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:48 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Robin Frost
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ah I asked because I know Sonicare was launching one too I was just 
>> curious
>> about that one as well.
>> thanks for letting us know.Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:02 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>> The Oral-B Pro 5000 SmartSeries.. has an app you download.  And he app is
>> not accessible.  At least, not yet.
>> So don't waste your time downloading it.  It's not necessary.  My dentist
>> said I needed to start using an electric toothbrush, so I just thought it
>> was cool to have a bluetooth toothbrush, and since it was a $150 item, 
>> which
>> dropped to $85 after it being on sale and a coupon added from Amazon.com, 
>> I
>> got it.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>> Lost
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Oh no which Bluetooth toothbrush app is that? I'd thought about giving 
>>> them a play so not the best idea then?
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:12 AM
>>> To: Jim Shaffer ; Discussion of accessible home electronics and 
>>> appliances
>>> Cc: cheez
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>>> Lost
>>>
>>> Probably not, and if so, probably won't be easy to use.  Like my 
>>> bluetooth
>>> sonic toothbrush's app.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jim Shaffer via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Jim Shaffer" <jjs at jjshaffer.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>>> Lost
>>>
>>>
>>>>I wonder if any of those over-the-hood microwaves can be controlled by 
>>>>an IPhone app?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:59 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> Cc: Robin Frost
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>>>> Lost
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> thanks for letting us all know.
>>>> Obviously had I known I'd never have posited as a potential solution.
>>>> I'll return to my quiet non-participatory corner now with the hope that
>>>> perhaps legislation could be crafted or structured negotiations could 
>>>> be
>>>> entered into in an effort to address this issue as it seems like that 
>>>> might
>>>> be the only way to impact the situation going forward.
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:30 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> Cc: cheez
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>>>> Lost
>>>>
>>>> Whirlpool no longer makes braille overlays, and I'm sure GE has 
>>>> followed
>>>> suit.
>>>>
>>>> Vince
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 1:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is 
>>>> Lost
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> doesn't Whirlpool make braille overlays for their appliances? they 
>>>>> used to do so.  Perhaps a call to them might shed light on this 
>>>>> situation?
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:37 PM
>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I am at a dead-end when it comes to finding an accessible over 
>>>>> the
>>>>> range microwave.  They just do not exist.  We are left with no option 
>>>>> but to
>>>>> purchase one that I cannot use as we need the exhaust.  We cannot just
>>>>> replace the microwave with a traditional exhaust hood as we would have 
>>>>> to
>>>>> replace the cabinet above the range to position the hood at the 
>>>>> required
>>>>> height.  Well, that is not going to happen since it is not possible to 
>>>>> match
>>>>> a new cabinets to the existing cabinets.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The appliance manufacturers think that making an appliance ADA 
>>>>> accessible
>>>>> requires them to only meet physical access requirements.  Access for 
>>>>> the
>>>>> blind is not even a consideration.  It is just a matter of time before
>>>>> access to all appliances are out of our reach.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Annette
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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