[Electronics-Talk] iPhone SE / was Re: Introduction

Andy Baracco wq6r at socal.rr.com
Fri Dec 1 20:30:39 UTC 2017 

But a heck of a lot slower. Also, when you upgrade to IOS 11, you may find 
that some of your favorite apps no longer work.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> It's not a former OS! The SE will still run IOS 11 just like the 8 or 10.
>
> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] iPhone SE / was Re: Introduction
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>
>> Wow. That’s cool. I think I’m going to have to go with the eight for 8+ 
>> for me though. Or 10, depending upon which punishment I’m a glutton for 
>> :-)
>>
>> I use my iPhone ridiculously. So, I can’t imagine going back to a former 
>> operating system.
>>
>> I already have a 7+.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love,
>> In the spring becomes the rose.
>>
>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> In july the iphone se at our verizon store in oklahoma city was $400, 
>>> and then about a month or so after that, I think it was at target that 
>>> we saw the se again and it was about $500 there, So it is less expensive 
>>> than the other iphones.
>>>
>>> Arlene
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "River Linda via Electronics-Talk" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "River Linda" <waterinmyroom at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 1:37 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] iPhone SE / was Re: Introduction
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>> The iPhone SE is the 4 inch version, same size as the iPhone 5 and 5S. 
>>>> The
>>>> screen size got bigger with the iPhone 6. The SE is a lot cheaper too,
>>>> about half the price of the iPhone 8. I miss having a smaller phone and 
>>>> am
>>>> seriously thinking about getting the iPhone SE.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:34 PM Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk <
>>>> electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is an iPhone SE
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>
>>>>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>>>>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love,
>>>>> In the spring becomes the rose.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Roanna Bacchus via Electronics-Talk <
>>>>> electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My family and I are you smart phone. I use voice over on my iPhone 
>>>>> > to > do
>>>>> everything that you just described in your message and I love it. Hope 
>>>>> to
>>>>> hear from you soon.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk <
>>>>> electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi, Roanna, welcome to this group. You'll really learn a whole lot
>>>>> here, and sometimes it could be a real mixture of things, from what 
>>>>> items
>>>>> are the most accessible to who takes to certain items  and  others 
>>>>> would
>>>>> rather the other type of items, very much in the same sort of catagory 
>>>>> and
>>>>> both accessible in their own way. Just like in everything, everyone 
>>>>> has
>>>>> their own ways of doing things, and they have a set items they make 
>>>>> use of.
>>>>> Listening to all of it is quite interesting. One set of items would 
>>>>> be, for
>>>>> example smart phones and the feature phones, the flip phones and there 
>>>>> are
>>>>> some bar type phones with buttons both accessible in their own ways. I
>>>>> think a majority of visually impaired individuals have smart phones, 
>>>>> just
>>>>> as everyone else does, and included in these phones is a screen 
>>>>> reader. So
>>>>> one can navigate on the screen as anyone else can. In some cases it 
>>>>> makes
>>>>> other items in the house more accessible, such as having things like 
>>>>> an
>>>>> instapot, also some crockpots, working different things in one's house
>>>>> whether it be your thermostat or lights and other things. Doing email,
>>>>> going on the internet, listening to books, music and the radio on the
>>>>> phone, apps to be able to connect with someone to find out a 
>>>>> description of
>>>>> an item that you need a bit more information about, other useful apps 
>>>>> for
>>>>> scanning text, bar codes, gps, color identifier, and so much more. 
>>>>> Then
>>>>> there's those feature phones that are flip phones or bar type phones, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> phones that have the buttons, that have the text to speech included in 
>>>>> the
>>>>> phone, which isn't exactly like the screen reading software in a smart
>>>>> phone, but makes it possible to navigate the phone with the buttons 
>>>>> and
>>>>> many of these phones do talk everything in the menues in the phone.
>>>>> Personally for me, what I use is some of the different feature phones 
>>>>> that
>>>>> I'm very confortable with. As I'm able too I'll get more of these type 
>>>>> of
>>>>> phones so I could see what the phones are capable of and see what 
>>>>> types of
>>>>> things that I or anyone else can do with these phones. Of course, as 
>>>>> in
>>>>> everything certain phones are better than others or rightfully so a 
>>>>> bit
>>>>> better because the aspects of the phone may be a bit more advanced. 
>>>>> Such as
>>>>> seeing a difference in how a number of these phones work and what they 
>>>>> had
>>>>> in cluded 3 years ago, verses now presently. I think I'm going to do 
>>>>> some
>>>>> audio recordings about these phones. While there's so much more you 
>>>>> can do
>>>>> with a smart phone, with these feature phones, Besides navigating with 
>>>>> the
>>>>> phone for the settings, to type in new contacts, writing a text 
>>>>> message, I
>>>>> could use the calculater, I could use the calendar on some of them, I 
>>>>> go on
>>>>> the internet with them, some of the phones are a bit better than other
>>>>> phones. 2 of the phones that are better for going on the internet that 
>>>>> are
>>>>> quite new phones, probably as new as from last year are the sim mobile 
>>>>> for
>>>>> at&t and the alcatel for t-mobile. Not everyone is as crazy as I am, I 
>>>>> like
>>>>> to explore and try everything I can do with it, including going on the
>>>>> internet, which a number of people wouldn't even think about doing or
>>>>> wouldn't care about, and possibly wouldn't be interested in using 
>>>>> something
>>>>> like the calculator. It's just enough phone for many individuals to be 
>>>>> able
>>>>> to have a phone to use as  just a phone, from easily dialing a phone 
>>>>> number
>>>>> to navigating the phone with the text to speech included in the phone, 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be able to write a text message, go into your contacts to either look 
>>>>> up a
>>>>> phone number which takes no time or when you're going to type in a new
>>>>> contact or write a text message. As far as smart phones we have a modo 
>>>>> g
>>>>> android phone, which neither one of us have really got the knack of 
>>>>> using
>>>>> and we really want to learn. We're going to get the android book from
>>>>> national braille press which should help in our learning, 
>>>>> tremendously. One
>>>>> of these days when we could afford it we'd like to get i phones. We 
>>>>> have
>>>>> looked at both the i phones and  the android phones at the store, with 
>>>>> the
>>>>> sales person putting the screen reader on. One time we saw that little 
>>>>> i
>>>>> phone the s e I think it's called, which seemed pretty easy to 
>>>>> navigate,
>>>>> and the phone was a really nice size being small and being small 
>>>>> enough to
>>>>> put in a pocket. Everyone differs to much of an extent of how they use
>>>>> anything for that matter. For a smart phone we would want to have the
>>>>> scanning apps, the color identifier, possibly the gps, one  of those 
>>>>> apps
>>>>> in case we needed something described, for us not so much for reading
>>>>> books, and listening to the radio or tv, but that's some of what we 
>>>>> would
>>>>> use. Having the internet and email handy on the smart phones is great 
>>>>> as
>>>>> well. Hopefully in time we'll get use to the smart phones, but I'll 
>>>>> never
>>>>> stop using the feature phones because they are just as usefull in 
>>>>> their
>>>>> ownway. It's amazing, the topic of the phones is such a big topic. 
>>>>> Then
>>>>> there's other things we write about here, sharing information about 
>>>>> what
>>>>> appliances are more accessible, such as Roger recently told us about 
>>>>> his
>>>>> stove and dryer that are both quite accessible, which was good for us 
>>>>> to
>>>>> know about since we need a new stove. we write about our experiences 
>>>>> with
>>>>> some of the tvs that have the speech included in them, also share 
>>>>> ideas
>>>>> about how to do certain things, whatever comes up for someone, even if 
>>>>> it's
>>>>> something like finding the best ways for labeling something, which a 
>>>>> number
>>>>> of us have our own individual ways of doing things, that one could 
>>>>> figure
>>>>> out and hear what is the closest way they would feel confortable in 
>>>>> doing
>>>>> whatever it is. As I said we all vary in either our skill or what 
>>>>> we're
>>>>> plain confortable with, and that goes for anything, with so many
>>>>> possibilities. Feel welcome to asking any questions you have, and 
>>>>> share any
>>>>> experiences you have had.
>>>>> >> Arlene
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "roanna bacchus via
>>>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> Cc: "roanna bacchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:22 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Dear Members,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> My name is Roanna Bacchus, and I am currently seeking employment 
>>>>> >>> that
>>>>> will allow me to utilize my braille skills and degree.  I love 
>>>>> learning
>>>>> about accessible electronics that the blind can use on their own.  I 
>>>>> joined
>>>>> this list so I can share my experiences using accessible electronics.
>>>>> >>>
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