[Electronics-Talk] Introduction

Andy Baracco wq6r at socal.rr.com
Fri Dec 1 21:08:43 UTC 2017 

They're identicle. I think what you mean is that the 10 is slightly smaller 
than the 8 Plus.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>I believe the 8 plus is a bit smaller than the 7 plus.
> My wife has a six month old 7 plus running IOS 11 and she's not planning 
> on upgrading any time soon.
> I guess you just want to keep up with the Jones' es?
>
> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>
>
>> No, I have a 7+.
>>
>> Going to upgrade, but, just wanted to know about the SE as I did not know 
>> anything about it.
>>
>> Will probably upgrade either with the 8+, or 10.
>>
>> I know there are blind people that have tens, but, as far as how many? 
>> Who knows.
>>
>> I am sure there are much more that have eights though.
>>
>> Don’t really want to get a tent and have there be not as much info if I 
>> have questions.
>>
>> So, besides size. What is the physical difference between a 7+ and 8+?
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love,
>> In the spring becomes the rose.
>>
>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you running IOS 11? I had an iphone 6 for 3 years, and noticed the 
>>> slowness after upgrading to IOS 11, in spite of following all of the 
>>> recommendations regarding power saving, CPU use, etc. Going from the 6 
>>> to the 8 is like going from riding a bicycle to driving a Ferrari.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Brun via Electronics-Talk" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Sherri Brun" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have the IPhone SE and I am very happy with it.  Yes, it has all the 
>>>> features of the IPhone 6.  I have no desire to upgrade, as I do not 
>>>> want to lose the earphone jack, which is not available in IPhone 7 and 
>>>> above. They use ear-pods.  Again, very happy with my IPhone SE.
>>>>
>>>> Sherri
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:18 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Arlene <arlenes71154 at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>
>>>> It's a smaller size I phone and from what I understand, it's the same 
>>>> as the i phone 6. I'm not sure if I'm remember this right, possibly 
>>>> someone knows a little more about it than I do. I'll find out if I'm 
>>>> remember this right and I'll write back here and let you know.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What is an iPhone SE
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>
>>>>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>>>>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love, In the spring becomes the
>>>>> rose.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Roanna Bacchus via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My family and I are you smart phone. I use voice over on my iPhone to
>>>>>> do everything that you just described in your message and I love it.
>>>>>> Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Roanna, welcome to this group. You'll really learn a whole lot
>>>>>>> here, and sometimes it could be a real mixture of things, from what
>>>>>>> items are the most accessible to who takes to certain items  and
>>>>>>> others would rather the other type of items, very much in the same
>>>>>>> sort of catagory and both accessible in their own way. Just like in
>>>>>>> everything, everyone has their own ways of doing things, and they
>>>>>>> have a set items they make use of. Listening to all of it is quite
>>>>>>> interesting. One set of items would be, for example smart phones and
>>>>>>> the feature phones, the flip phones and there are some bar type
>>>>>>> phones with buttons both accessible in their own ways. I think a
>>>>>>> majority of visually impaired individuals have smart phones, just as
>>>>>>> everyone else does, and included in these phones is a screen reader.
>>>>>>> So one can navigate on the screen as anyone else can. In some cases
>>>>>>> it makes other items in the house more accessible, such as having
>>>>>>> things like an instapot, also some crockpots, working different
>>>>>>> things in one's house whether it be your thermostat or lights and
>>>>>>> other things. Doing email, going on the internet, listening to
>>>>>>> books, music and the radio on the phone, apps to be able to connect
>>>>>>> with someone to find out a description of an item that you need a
>>>>>>> bit more information about, other useful apps for scanning text, bar
>>>>>>> codes, gps, color identifier, and so much more. Then there's those
>>>>>>> feature phones that are flip phones or bar type phones, the phones
>>>>>>> that have the buttons, that have the text to speech included in the
>>>>>>> phone, which isn't exactly like the screen reading software in a
>>>>>>> smart phone, but makes it possible to navigate the phone with the
>>>>>>> buttons and many of these phones do talk everything in the menues in
>>>>>>> the phone. Personally for me, what I use is some of the different
>>>>>>> feature phones that I'm very confortable with. As I'm able too I'll
>>>>>>> get more of these type of phones so I could see what the phones are
>>>>>>> capable of and see what types of things that I or anyone else can do
>>>>>>> with these phones. Of course, as in everything certain phones are
>>>>>>> better than others or rightfully so a bit better because the aspects
>>>>>>> of the phone may be a bit more advanced. Such as seeing a difference
>>>>>>> in how a number of these phones work and what they had in cluded 3
>>>>>>> years ago, verses now presently. I think I'm going to do some audio
>>>>>>> recordings about these phones. While there's so much more you can do
>>>>>>> with a smart phone, with these feature phones, Besides navigating
>>>>>>> with the phone for the settings, to type in new contacts, writing a
>>>>>>> text message, I could use the calculater, I could use the calendar
>>>>>>> on some of them, I go on the internet with them, some of the phones
>>>>>>> are a bit better than other phones. 2 of the phones that are better
>>>>>>> for going on the internet that are quite new phones, probably as new
>>>>>>> as from last year are the sim mobile for at&t and the alcatel for
>>>>>>> t-mobile. Not everyone is as crazy as I am, I like to explore and
>>>>>>> try everything I can do with it, including going on the internet,
>>>>>>> which a number of people wouldn't even think about doing or wouldn't
>>>>>>> care about, and possibly wouldn't be interested in using something
>>>>>>> like the calculator. It's just enough phone for many individuals to
>>>>>>> be able to have a phone to use as just a phone, from easily dialing
>>>>>>> a phone number to navigating the phone with the text to speech
>>>>>>> included in the phone, to be able to write a text message, go into
>>>>>>> your contacts to either look up a phone number which takes no time
>>>>>>> or when you're going to type in a new contact or write a text
>>>>>>> message. As far as smart phones we have a modo g android phone,
>>>>>>> which neither one of us have really got the knack of using and we
>>>>>>> really want to learn. We're going to get the android book from
>>>>>>> national braille press which should help in our learning,
>>>>>>> tremendously. One of these days when we could afford it we'd like to
>>>>>>> get i phones. We have looked at both the i phones and  the android
>>>>>>> phones at the store, with the sales person putting the screen reader
>>>>>>> on. One time we saw that little i phone the s e I think it's called,
>>>>>>> which seemed pretty easy to navigate, and the phone was a really
>>>>>>> nice size being small and being small enough to put in a pocket.
>>>>>>> Everyone differs to much of an extent of how they use anything for
>>>>>>> that matter. For a smart phone we would want to have the scanning
>>>>>>> apps, the color identifier, possibly the gps, one  of those apps in
>>>>>>> case we needed something described, for us not so much for reading
>>>>>>> books, and listening to the radio or tv, but that's some of what we
>>>>>>> would use. Having the internet and email handy on the smart phones
>>>>>>> is great as well. Hopefully in time we'll get use to the smart
>>>>>>> phones, but I'll never stop using the feature phones because they
>>>>>>> are just as usefull in their ownway. It's amazing, the topic of the
>>>>>>> phones is such a big topic. Then there's other things we write about
>>>>>>> here, sharing information about what appliances are more accessible,
>>>>>>> such as Roger recently told us about his stove and dryer that are
>>>>>>> both quite accessible, which was good for us to know about since we
>>>>>>> need a new stove. we write about our experiences with some of the
>>>>>>> tvs that have the speech included in them, also share ideas about
>>>>>>> how to do certain things, whatever comes up for someone, even if
>>>>>>> it's something like finding the best ways for labeling something,
>>>>>>> which a number of us have our own individual ways of doing things,
>>>>>>> that one could figure out and hear what is the closest way they 
>>>>>>> would feel confortable in doing whatever it is. As I said we all 
>>>>>>> vary in either our skill or what we're plain confortable with, and 
>>>>>>> that goes for anything, with so many possibilities. Feel welcome to 
>>>>>>> asking any questions you have, and share any experiences you have 
>>>>>>> had.
>>>>>>> Arlene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "roanna bacchus via 
>>>>>>> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: "roanna bacchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My name is Roanna Bacchus, and I am currently seeking employment
>>>>>>>> that will allow me to utilize my braille skills and degree.  I love
>>>>>>>> learning about accessible electronics that the blind can use on
>>>>>>>> their own.  I joined this list so I can share my experiences using
>>>>>>>> accessible electronics.
>>>>>>>>
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