[Electronics-Talk] Introduction

Mon Dec 4 00:19:04 UTC 2017

I'm not sure what advantages you're talking about and I have yet to 
listen to Jonathan's podcast, but Android phones and the S8 are 
different from the iPhone in multiple ways. For example, the S8 also has 
a headphone jack. In Android you can use 3rd party text to speech 
engines, launchers, browsers, email clients, contact managers and so on 
and you can make any of them the default. The two systems also just 
behave differently, and you may prefer one or the other. I don't see one 
device as being better then the other but that they each have their own 
strengths and weaknesses. I want the iPhone and the Android phones to 
keep getting better and more accessible because I always want to have a 
choice, and I think choice is good for blind users. If you use the 
iPhone, and it works for you then there's no reason to switch or even 
consider an Android phone.

On 12/03/2017 03:21 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> I listened to Jonathan Mosen's Blind Side series on the Samsung Galaxy 
> S8, and even though I am locked in to iPhone, I found what i heard to 
> be very impressive. But the only advantage I see to that phone is the 
> ability to add storage via an SD card.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>
>
>> I’ve had both android and iPhone.
>>
>> I find iPhone much, much, much, easier to use than an android.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love,
>> In the spring becomes the rose.
>>
>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 11:49 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sherri, I purchased the se iphone today at walmart, under straight 
>>> talk. I don't exactly know what I'm doing so far, but tonight I was 
>>> exploring the screen to see if I could find anything and some how I 
>>> got into my messages and was able to read the welcome text message 
>>> from straight talk. I'm glad I managed to come across that message, 
>>> but now I couldn't tell you how I got there, but I'll learn. We had 
>>> inquired about the prices of the se from some of the different 
>>> stores, and we decided when we went to walmart today that we would 
>>> look into it, but I had no idea that we would get an iphone today. 
>>> Then the  nex things I'll do is find the manual online, and also 
>>> order the books from nbp. Also if there's anything else you could 
>>> tell me, any tips or podcasts that would be helpful, that would be 
>>> great. Thank you, Sherri, for any helpful suggestions. While I don't 
>>> know very much yet, but somehow to me, it seems that I'm going to 
>>> catch on to the se easier than the modo g phone that I have.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Brun via 
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Sherri Brun" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 6:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have the IPhone SE and I am very happy with it.  Yes, it has all 
>>>> the features of the IPhone 6.  I have no desire to upgrade, as I do 
>>>> not want to lose the earphone jack, which is not available in 
>>>> IPhone 7 and above. They use ear-pods.  Again, very happy with my 
>>>> IPhone SE.
>>>>
>>>> Sherri
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:18 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Arlene <arlenes71154 at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>
>>>> It's a smaller size I phone and from what I understand, it's the 
>>>> same as the i phone 6. I'm not sure if I'm remember this right, 
>>>> possibly someone knows a little more about it than I do. I'll find 
>>>> out if I'm remember this right and I'll write back here and let you 
>>>> know.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What is an iPhone SE
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>
>>>>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>>>>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love, In the spring becomes the
>>>>> rose.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Roanna Bacchus via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My family and I are you smart phone. I use voice over on my 
>>>>>> iPhone to
>>>>>> do everything that you just described in your message and I love it.
>>>>>> Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Roanna, welcome to this group. You'll really learn a whole lot
>>>>>>> here, and sometimes it could be a real mixture of things, from what
>>>>>>> items are the most accessible to who takes to certain items  and
>>>>>>> others would rather the other type of items, very much in the same
>>>>>>> sort of catagory and both accessible in their own way. Just like in
>>>>>>> everything, everyone has their own ways of doing things, and they
>>>>>>> have a set items they make use of. Listening to all of it is quite
>>>>>>> interesting. One set of items would be, for example smart phones 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the feature phones, the flip phones and there are some bar type
>>>>>>> phones with buttons both accessible in their own ways. I think a
>>>>>>> majority of visually impaired individuals have smart phones, 
>>>>>>> just as
>>>>>>> everyone else does, and included in these phones is a screen 
>>>>>>> reader.
>>>>>>> So one can navigate on the screen as anyone else can. In some cases
>>>>>>> it makes other items in the house more accessible, such as having
>>>>>>> things like an instapot, also some crockpots, working different
>>>>>>> things in one's house whether it be your thermostat or lights and
>>>>>>> other things. Doing email, going on the internet, listening to
>>>>>>> books, music and the radio on the phone, apps to be able to connect
>>>>>>> with someone to find out a description of an item that you need a
>>>>>>> bit more information about, other useful apps for scanning text, 
>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>> codes, gps, color identifier, and so much more. Then there's those
>>>>>>> feature phones that are flip phones or bar type phones, the phones
>>>>>>> that have the buttons, that have the text to speech included in the
>>>>>>> phone, which isn't exactly like the screen reading software in a
>>>>>>> smart phone, but makes it possible to navigate the phone with the
>>>>>>> buttons and many of these phones do talk everything in the 
>>>>>>> menues in
>>>>>>> the phone. Personally for me, what I use is some of the different
>>>>>>> feature phones that I'm very confortable with. As I'm able too I'll
>>>>>>> get more of these type of phones so I could see what the phones are
>>>>>>> capable of and see what types of things that I or anyone else 
>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>> with these phones. Of course, as in everything certain phones are
>>>>>>> better than others or rightfully so a bit better because the 
>>>>>>> aspects
>>>>>>> of the phone may be a bit more advanced. Such as seeing a 
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> in how a number of these phones work and what they had in cluded 3
>>>>>>> years ago, verses now presently. I think I'm going to do some audio
>>>>>>> recordings about these phones. While there's so much more you 
>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>> with a smart phone, with these feature phones, Besides navigating
>>>>>>> with the phone for the settings, to type in new contacts, writing a
>>>>>>> text message, I could use the calculater, I could use the calendar
>>>>>>> on some of them, I go on the internet with them, some of the phones
>>>>>>> are a bit better than other phones. 2 of the phones that are better
>>>>>>> for going on the internet that are quite new phones, probably as 
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> as from last year are the sim mobile for at&t and the alcatel for
>>>>>>> t-mobile. Not everyone is as crazy as I am, I like to explore and
>>>>>>> try everything I can do with it, including going on the internet,
>>>>>>> which a number of people wouldn't even think about doing or 
>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>> care about, and possibly wouldn't be interested in using something
>>>>>>> like the calculator. It's just enough phone for many individuals to
>>>>>>> be able to have a phone to use as just a phone, from easily dialing
>>>>>>> a phone number to navigating the phone with the text to speech
>>>>>>> included in the phone, to be able to write a text message, go into
>>>>>>> your contacts to either look up a phone number which takes no time
>>>>>>> or when you're going to type in a new contact or write a text
>>>>>>> message. As far as smart phones we have a modo g android phone,
>>>>>>> which neither one of us have really got the knack of using and we
>>>>>>> really want to learn. We're going to get the android book from
>>>>>>> national braille press which should help in our learning,
>>>>>>> tremendously. One of these days when we could afford it we'd 
>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>> get i phones. We have looked at both the i phones and the android
>>>>>>> phones at the store, with the sales person putting the screen 
>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>> on. One time we saw that little i phone the s e I think it's 
>>>>>>> called,
>>>>>>> which seemed pretty easy to navigate, and the phone was a really
>>>>>>> nice size being small and being small enough to put in a pocket.
>>>>>>> Everyone differs to much of an extent of how they use anything for
>>>>>>> that matter. For a smart phone we would want to have the scanning
>>>>>>> apps, the color identifier, possibly the gps, one  of those apps in
>>>>>>> case we needed something described, for us not so much for reading
>>>>>>> books, and listening to the radio or tv, but that's some of what we
>>>>>>> would use. Having the internet and email handy on the smart phones
>>>>>>> is great as well. Hopefully in time we'll get use to the smart
>>>>>>> phones, but I'll never stop using the feature phones because they
>>>>>>> are just as usefull in their ownway. It's amazing, the topic of the
>>>>>>> phones is such a big topic. Then there's other things we write 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> here, sharing information about what appliances are more 
>>>>>>> accessible,
>>>>>>> such as Roger recently told us about his stove and dryer that are
>>>>>>> both quite accessible, which was good for us to know about since we
>>>>>>> need a new stove. we write about our experiences with some of the
>>>>>>> tvs that have the speech included in them, also share ideas about
>>>>>>> how to do certain things, whatever comes up for someone, even if
>>>>>>> it's something like finding the best ways for labeling something,
>>>>>>> which a number of us have our own individual ways of doing things,
>>>>>>> that one could figure out and hear what is the closest way they 
>>>>>>> would feel confortable in doing whatever it is. As I said we all 
>>>>>>> vary in either our skill or what we're plain confortable with, 
>>>>>>> and that goes for anything, with so many possibilities. Feel 
>>>>>>> welcome to asking any questions you have, and share any 
>>>>>>> experiences you have had.
>>>>>>> Arlene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "roanna bacchus via 
>>>>>>> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: "roanna bacchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My name is Roanna Bacchus, and I am currently seeking employment
>>>>>>>> that will allow me to utilize my braille skills and degree.  I 
>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>> learning about accessible electronics that the blind can use on
>>>>>>>> their own.  I joined this list so I can share my experiences using
>>>>>>>> accessible electronics.
>>>>>>>>
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