[Electronics-Talk] Introduction

Tue Dec 5 14:04:27 UTC 2017

Individually to some extent we all vary in what we take too, and I never 
meant that the iphone is  easier and better than the android. At this point 
in time I know next to nothing in navigating touch screens, and in my own 
experience for me anyway, I'm understanding the se phone better than when I 
was concentrating on learning my modo g  android phone. I wouldn't say the 
modo g is an awful phone compared to the se phone. For the modo g I went to 
the instructions I was told about for the swiping and the gestures, and did 
what I could to follow those directions to  navigate the screen. It was 
confusing at times, going into certain areas or sometimes I couldn't seem to 
get into folders. I'm not really describing this well. For whatever reason 
the se  is coming to me more easily. I really don't think I could totally 
conclude that the se is better just because I'm catching onto it a little 
more easily, in the beginning stages anyway. If I could just manage to do 
better with the modo g I would know more because with everything you find 
weaknesses and strengths, also finding how one machine might do a little 
better  with certain things in one machine, and the other machine might do 
other aspects better. It will be great when I get to that point, which will 
make me so much more knowledgible. It's like that with many things, even 
these feature phones that have the text to speech in them. In 1 phone, the 
setup could be setup a bit better or could just be different, or work a bit 
better than another or just as well, with disadvantages and advantages.

Arlene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk" 
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To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction

> Android accessibility has come a long way in six years, so anyone picking 
> up the two devices today may have a different experience. I was a long 
> time iPhone user, and I still use an iPhone for work, but my personal 
> phone is an S7 that I got in the summer of 2016. IMHO, both are good 
> devices, and it's good we have choice and people can choose the device 
> that works best for them. My problem is when people make blanket 
> statements such as one device is easier or more intuitive then the other.
>
>
> On 12/03/2017 05:53 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> Jenny, the first time I saw an iphone was about 6 years ago, in an at&t 
>> store, and one of the salesman showed me his own iphone and spent about 
>> 45 minutes with me. It was such a great experience. He put voice over on 
>> for me, and he explained where certain items were on the screen and I 
>> began to explore the screen, and I felt so strongly at that point, that 
>> this was something I could learn, and I feel the same with my own right 
>> now which I never felt that way with my android modo g.
>>
>> ARlene
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>
>>
>>> I’ve had both android and iPhone.
>>>
>>> I find iPhone much, much, much, easier to use than an android.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love,
>>> In the spring becomes the rose.
>>>
>>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>>
>>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 11:49 PM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sherri, I purchased the se iphone today at walmart, under straight 
>>>> talk. I don't exactly know what I'm doing so far, but tonight I was 
>>>> exploring the screen to see if I could find anything and some how I got 
>>>> into my messages and was able to read the welcome text message from 
>>>> straight talk. I'm glad I managed to come across that message, but now 
>>>> I couldn't tell you how I got there, but I'll learn. We had inquired 
>>>> about the prices of the se from some of the different stores, and we 
>>>> decided when we went to walmart today that we would look into it, but I 
>>>> had no idea that we would get an iphone today. Then the nex things I'll 
>>>> do is find the manual online, and also order the books from nbp. Also 
>>>> if there's anything else you could tell me, any tips or podcasts that 
>>>> would be helpful, that would be great. Thank you, Sherri, for any 
>>>> helpful suggestions. While I don't know very much yet, but somehow to 
>>>> me, it seems that I'm going to catch on to the se easier than the modo 
>>>> g phone that I have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Brun via Electronics-Talk" 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'" 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Sherri Brun" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 6:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have the IPhone SE and I am very happy with it. Yes, it has all the 
>>>>> features of the IPhone 6. I have no desire to upgrade, as I do not 
>>>>> want to lose the earphone jack, which is not available in IPhone 7 and 
>>>>> above. They use ear-pods. Again, very happy with my IPhone SE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sherri
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:18 AM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Arlene <arlenes71154 at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a smaller size I phone and from what I understand, it's the same 
>>>>> as the i phone 6. I'm not sure if I'm remember this right, possibly 
>>>>> someone knows a little more about it than I do. I'll find out if I'm 
>>>>> remember this right and I'll write back here and let you know.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jenny Keller via Electronics-Talk" 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is an iPhone SE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snow.
>>>>>> Lies the seed that with the sun’s love, In the spring becomes the
>>>>>> rose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “The rose” Bette Midler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Roanna Bacchus via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My family and I are you smart phone. I use voice over on my iPhone 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do everything that you just described in your message and I love it.
>>>>>>> Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Roanna, welcome to this group. You'll really learn a whole lot
>>>>>>>> here, and sometimes it could be a real mixture of things, from what
>>>>>>>> items are the most accessible to who takes to certain items and
>>>>>>>> others would rather the other type of items, very much in the same
>>>>>>>> sort of catagory and both accessible in their own way. Just like in
>>>>>>>> everything, everyone has their own ways of doing things, and they
>>>>>>>> have a set items they make use of. Listening to all of it is quite
>>>>>>>> interesting. One set of items would be, for example smart phones 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the feature phones, the flip phones and there are some bar type
>>>>>>>> phones with buttons both accessible in their own ways. I think a
>>>>>>>> majority of visually impaired individuals have smart phones, just 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> everyone else does, and included in these phones is a screen 
>>>>>>>> reader.
>>>>>>>> So one can navigate on the screen as anyone else can. In some cases
>>>>>>>> it makes other items in the house more accessible, such as having
>>>>>>>> things like an instapot, also some crockpots, working different
>>>>>>>> things in one's house whether it be your thermostat or lights and
>>>>>>>> other things. Doing email, going on the internet, listening to
>>>>>>>> books, music and the radio on the phone, apps to be able to connect
>>>>>>>> with someone to find out a description of an item that you need a
>>>>>>>> bit more information about, other useful apps for scanning text, 
>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>> codes, gps, color identifier, and so much more. Then there's those
>>>>>>>> feature phones that are flip phones or bar type phones, the phones
>>>>>>>> that have the buttons, that have the text to speech included in the
>>>>>>>> phone, which isn't exactly like the screen reading software in a
>>>>>>>> smart phone, but makes it possible to navigate the phone with the
>>>>>>>> buttons and many of these phones do talk everything in the menues 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the phone. Personally for me, what I use is some of the different
>>>>>>>> feature phones that I'm very confortable with. As I'm able too I'll
>>>>>>>> get more of these type of phones so I could see what the phones are
>>>>>>>> capable of and see what types of things that I or anyone else can 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> with these phones. Of course, as in everything certain phones are
>>>>>>>> better than others or rightfully so a bit better because the 
>>>>>>>> aspects
>>>>>>>> of the phone may be a bit more advanced. Such as seeing a 
>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>> in how a number of these phones work and what they had in cluded 3
>>>>>>>> years ago, verses now presently. I think I'm going to do some audio
>>>>>>>> recordings about these phones. While there's so much more you can 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> with a smart phone, with these feature phones, Besides navigating
>>>>>>>> with the phone for the settings, to type in new contacts, writing a
>>>>>>>> text message, I could use the calculater, I could use the calendar
>>>>>>>> on some of them, I go on the internet with them, some of the phones
>>>>>>>> are a bit better than other phones. 2 of the phones that are better
>>>>>>>> for going on the internet that are quite new phones, probably as 
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> as from last year are the sim mobile for at&t and the alcatel for
>>>>>>>> t-mobile. Not everyone is as crazy as I am, I like to explore and
>>>>>>>> try everything I can do with it, including going on the internet,
>>>>>>>> which a number of people wouldn't even think about doing or 
>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>> care about, and possibly wouldn't be interested in using something
>>>>>>>> like the calculator. It's just enough phone for many individuals to
>>>>>>>> be able to have a phone to use as just a phone, from easily dialing
>>>>>>>> a phone number to navigating the phone with the text to speech
>>>>>>>> included in the phone, to be able to write a text message, go into
>>>>>>>> your contacts to either look up a phone number which takes no time
>>>>>>>> or when you're going to type in a new contact or write a text
>>>>>>>> message. As far as smart phones we have a modo g android phone,
>>>>>>>> which neither one of us have really got the knack of using and we
>>>>>>>> really want to learn. We're going to get the android book from
>>>>>>>> national braille press which should help in our learning,
>>>>>>>> tremendously. One of these days when we could afford it we'd like 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get i phones. We have looked at both the i phones and the android
>>>>>>>> phones at the store, with the sales person putting the screen 
>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>>> on. One time we saw that little i phone the s e I think it's 
>>>>>>>> called,
>>>>>>>> which seemed pretty easy to navigate, and the phone was a really
>>>>>>>> nice size being small and being small enough to put in a pocket.
>>>>>>>> Everyone differs to much of an extent of how they use anything for
>>>>>>>> that matter. For a smart phone we would want to have the scanning
>>>>>>>> apps, the color identifier, possibly the gps, one of those apps in
>>>>>>>> case we needed something described, for us not so much for reading
>>>>>>>> books, and listening to the radio or tv, but that's some of what we
>>>>>>>> would use. Having the internet and email handy on the smart phones
>>>>>>>> is great as well. Hopefully in time we'll get use to the smart
>>>>>>>> phones, but I'll never stop using the feature phones because they
>>>>>>>> are just as usefull in their ownway. It's amazing, the topic of the
>>>>>>>> phones is such a big topic. Then there's other things we write 
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> here, sharing information about what appliances are more 
>>>>>>>> accessible,
>>>>>>>> such as Roger recently told us about his stove and dryer that are
>>>>>>>> both quite accessible, which was good for us to know about since we
>>>>>>>> need a new stove. we write about our experiences with some of the
>>>>>>>> tvs that have the speech included in them, also share ideas about
>>>>>>>> how to do certain things, whatever comes up for someone, even if
>>>>>>>> it's something like finding the best ways for labeling something,
>>>>>>>> which a number of us have our own individual ways of doing things,
>>>>>>>> that one could figure out and hear what is the closest way they 
>>>>>>>> would feel confortable in doing whatever it is. As I said we all 
>>>>>>>> vary in either our skill or what we're plain confortable with, and 
>>>>>>>> that goes for anything, with so many possibilities. Feel welcome to 
>>>>>>>> asking any questions you have, and share any experiences you have 
>>>>>>>> had.
>>>>>>>> Arlene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "roanna bacchus via 
>>>>>>>> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "roanna bacchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Introduction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My name is Roanna Bacchus, and I am currently seeking employment
>>>>>>>>> that will allow me to utilize my braille skills and degree. I love
>>>>>>>>> learning about accessible electronics that the blind can use on
>>>>>>>>> their own. I joined this list so I can share my experiences using
>>>>>>>>> accessible electronics.
>>>>>>>>>
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