[Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There Are Ways To Fund It

cheez cheez at cox.net
Fri Dec 15 03:12:09 UTC 2017 

The street musicians I've seen on street corners here in Hell West, and the 
ones I saw at O'Hare Airport in Chicago weren't blind folk.

Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It


>
> Sounds like begging to me, which merely reinforces the negative stereotype 
> widely held by the general public that many blind folks are just lazy 
> mendicants looking for a handout.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:59 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Jenny Perdue
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
> There Are Ways To Fund It
>
> I think in most places you have to have a permit to do that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:55 AM, Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Busking is playing music on the street for money.  Picture the guy with 
>> the open guitar case beside him.  There may be other meanings, but that's 
>> the one I know.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:06 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
>> There Are Ways To Fund It
>>
>> I was wondering the same thing, Andy.  I've never heard of busking. 
>> Maybe it's an underground term for pushing.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Andy Baracco" <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
>> There Are Ways To Fund It
>>
>>
>>> What is busking?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired
>>> people, There Are Ways To Fund It
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't know what you are talking about.  What are these things?  Pam.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:07 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Peter Donahue
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people,
>>>> There Are Ways To Fund It
>>>>
>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>
>>>> There's always Busking, Crowdfunding, Dumpster diving,Network
>>>> Marketing, and other ways to increase one's income to cover the cost
>>>> of assistive technology without getting rehab involved. If you want
>>>> it bad enough you'll find a way to raise funds to buy it. That's what
>>>> you would need to do if you were sighted. Some of the ideas above
>>>> even allow you to do a little community service in the process of
>>>> increasing your income to cover these costs.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Michael Russillo via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:00 PM
>>>> To: S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Cc: Michael Russillo
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired
>>>> people
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that; the blindness market is a smaller one--I know, I know,
>>>> that's been hashed over time and again.  We should see if the company
>>>> has an installment plan to pay for those tech items gradually;
>>>> alternatively check with NFB for low-interest tech loans; just my 2 
>>>> cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2017 3:26 PM, S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this information.  I got excited when I began to read
>>>>> about a phone that I could use that was a smart phone with real easy
>>>>> to feel buttons.  Then I got to the price.  Why do all the companies
>>>>> making products for the blind price them so high that most of us
>>>>> cannot afford them?  I know you will all say research and
>>>>> development but the reality is that most blind people, especially
>>>>> retired seniors who have to live on less than $760 per month, cannot
>>>>> afford it.  I wish there was some way of making these products more
>>>>> affordable to all of us.  A smart phone with GPS, OCR scanning and
>>>>> other helpful apps would be a great help to all blind people but
>>>>> only those with the financial resources will be able to have it.
>>>>> The same is true with the Braille notetakers.  All of these
>>>>> wonderful products will never be in the hands of most of the blind
>>>>> because of their high price.  I know it will never change but I wish
>>>>> it would because I really could use this phone and a new Braille
>>>>> notetaker that is still supported and up to date instead of used
>>>>> equipment that I can no longer get repaired by companies who no
>>>>> longer support them.  I apologize for venting but I am 
>>>>> reallyfrustrated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandra Johnson
>>>>> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:37 AM
>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired
>>>>> people
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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