[Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There Are Ways To Fund It

Fri Dec 22 21:34:44 UTC 2017

I think that the determination of whether busking is performing or begging 
depends on the quality of the performance. Also, I agree that there 
shouldn't be a difference as to whether the performer is blind or not if the 
blind performer does not advertise or call attention to the fact that he is 
blind.

Andy

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From: "Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'" 
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Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It

> If busking is a way for sighted musicians to earn some money, why is it 
> unacceptable for a blind musician to do the same?  I know it might look 
> like begging, but it looks to me like a double standard to say it's OK for 
> sighted folks, but horrible for blind folks to do the exact same thing.
> Tracy
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Andrews, David B (DEED) via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 8:33 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Andrews, David B (DEED)
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
> There Are Ways To Fund It
>
> How do you know he is a Federationist ... I will say no more.
>
> Dave
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> David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer Minnesota Department of 
> Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
> 2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
> Direct: 651-539-2294
> Web | Twitter | Facebook
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:20 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
> There Are Ways To Fund It
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> It is absolutely astonishing to me that a Federationist would suggest that 
> a blind person short on cash grovel on a street corner with fiddle and tin 
> cup to raise enough money just to buy a smart phone.  This is prcisely the 
> type of behavior that reinforces the negative stereotype that is widely 
> held by the general public that many blind people are just a bunch of lazy 
> mendicants who are looking for a handout.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:11 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
> There Are Ways To Fund It
>
> Peter,
>
> good ideas and I was going to recommend that.
> I know the price for adaptive equipment is high and I'd have more things 
> like a braillle display if it were affordable.
> I make do with what I have such as my old braille notetaker.
>
> However, if you really cannot afford a product and cannot get assistance 
> from family, you can do what you suggested or there are usually assistive 
> tech loans out there.
> I know virginia has some sort of low interest loan for adaptive tech. And 
> also, there  might be help from NFB national or state affiliates.
>
> Ashley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:07 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Peter Donahue
> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There 
> Are Ways To Fund It
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> There's always Busking, Crowdfunding, Dumpster diving,Network Marketing, 
> and other ways to increase one's income to cover the cost of assistive 
> technology without getting rehab involved. If you want it bad enough 
> you'll find a way to raise funds to buy it. That's what you would need to 
> do if you were sighted. Some of the ideas above even allow you to do a 
> little community service in the process of increasing your income to cover 
> these costs.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Russillo via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:00 PM
> To: S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk
> Cc: Michael Russillo
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired 
> people
>
> Amen to that; the blindness market is a smaller one--I know, I know, 
> that's been hashed over time and again.  We should see if the company has 
> an installment plan to pay for those tech items gradually; alternatively 
> check with NFB for low-interest tech loans; just my 2 cents.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 3:26 PM, S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> Thanks for this information.  I got excited when I began to read about
>> a phone that I could use that was a smart phone with real easy to feel
>> buttons.  Then I got to the price.  Why do all the companies making
>> products for the blind price them so high that most of us cannot
>> afford them?  I know you will all say research and development but the
>> reality is that most blind people, especially retired seniors who have
>> to live on less than $760 per month, cannot afford it.  I wish there
>> was some way of making these products more affordable to all of us.  A
>> smart phone with GPS, OCR scanning and other helpful apps would be a
>> great help to all blind people but only those with the financial
>> resources will be able to have it.  The same is true with the Braille
>> notetakers.  All of these wonderful products will never be in the
>> hands of most of the blind because of their high price.  I know it
>> will never change but I wish it would because I really could use this
>> phone and a new Braille notetaker that is still supported and up to
>> date instead of used equipment that I can no longer get repaired by
>> companies who no longer support them.  I apologize for venting but I
>> am reallyfrustrated!
>>
>> Sandra Johnson
>> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:37 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired
>> people
>>
>> Some people recently were asking about easy-to-use phones, so I
>> forward this
>> ad:
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>> From: Irie-AT [mailto:sales at irie-at.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:31 AM
>> Subject: Smartphone for visually impaired people
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