[Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There Are Ways To Fund It

Sun Dec 24 05:46:54 UTC 2017

Tracy,
I totally agree; busking is legitimate for people in general and honestly I 
never thought of blindness as a factor.
Interesting how we have double standards sometimes.
Blindness is not a factor really; it’s aits a bout your talent; if people 
like your performance, they listen and donate to your fund; if they don't 
like you, they walk away; its not begging at all; you as a busker do not 
approach people for money.
Gerald may not really know what busking is.

This hits home.
I have a blind friend who actually earned money busking. Guess what he did 
with his money?
To make this electronics related, he bought some electronics parts with his 
earned money.
Its acceptable and legitimate and to insinuate that its not acceptable for 
blind folks is a big double standard.

Anyways, however you fund your iphone or other device, enjoy it.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 9:54 AM
To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
Cc: Tracy Carcione
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It

If busking is a way for sighted musicians to earn some money, why is it 
unacceptable for a blind musician to do the same?  I know it might look like 
begging, but it looks to me like a double standard to say it's OK for 
sighted folks, but horrible for blind folks to do the exact same thing.
Tracy

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Andrews, David B (DEED) via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 8:33 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It

How do you know he is a Federationist ... I will say no more.

Dave

David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer Minnesota Department of Employment 
and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2294
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-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:20 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
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Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It

It is absolutely astonishing to me that a Federationist would suggest that a 
blind person short on cash grovel on a street corner with fiddle and tin cup 
to raise enough money just to buy a smart phone.  This is prcisely the type 
of behavior that reinforces the negative stereotype that is widely held by 
the general public that many blind people are just a bunch of lazy 
mendicants who are looking for a handout.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:11 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Ashley Bramlett
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It

Peter,

good ideas and I was going to recommend that.
I know the price for adaptive equipment is high and I'd have more things 
like a braillle display if it were affordable.
I make do with what I have such as my old braille notetaker.

However, if you really cannot afford a product and cannot get assistance 
from family, you can do what you suggested or there are usually assistive 
tech loans out there.
I know virginia has some sort of low interest loan for adaptive tech. And 
also, there  might be help from NFB national or state affiliates.

Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:07 PM
To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
Cc: Peter Donahue
Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There 
Are Ways To Fund It

Good afternoon everyone,

There's always Busking, Crowdfunding, Dumpster diving,Network Marketing, and 
other ways to increase one's income to cover the cost of assistive 
technology without getting rehab involved. If you want it bad enough you'll 
find a way to raise funds to buy it. That's what you would need to do if you 
were sighted. Some of the ideas above even allow you to do a little 
community service in the process of increasing your income to cover these 
costs.

Peter Donahue

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Michael Russillo via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:00 PM
To: S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk
Cc: Michael Russillo
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired people

Amen to that; the blindness market is a smaller one--I know, I know, that's 
been hashed over time and again.  We should see if the company has an 
installment plan to pay for those tech items gradually; alternatively check 
with NFB for low-interest tech loans; just my 2 cents.

Peter

On 12/13/2017 3:26 PM, S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> Hello:
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> Thanks for this information.  I got excited when I began to read about
> a phone that I could use that was a smart phone with real easy to feel
> buttons.  Then I got to the price.  Why do all the companies making
> products for the blind price them so high that most of us cannot
> afford them?  I know you will all say research and development but the
> reality is that most blind people, especially retired seniors who have
> to live on less than $760 per month, cannot afford it.  I wish there
> was some way of making these products more affordable to all of us.  A
> smart phone with GPS, OCR scanning and other helpful apps would be a
> great help to all blind people but only those with the financial
> resources will be able to have it.  The same is true with the Braille
> notetakers.  All of these wonderful products will never be in the
> hands of most of the blind because of their high price.  I know it
> will never change but I wish it would because I really could use this
> phone and a new Braille notetaker that is still supported and up to
> date instead of used equipment that I can no longer get repaired by
> companies who no longer support them.  I apologize for venting but I
> am reallyfrustrated!
>
> Sandra Johnson
> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:37 AM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired
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