[Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones

Fri Nov 24 12:58:40 UTC 2017

Pam, when the guy put the speech on for me at the t-mobile store on the 
alcatel, it too seemed as if it didn't take long for him to get it turned 
on.
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From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones


> When I went to the TMobile store and got this phone, the guy must have 
> turned the speech on really quick, because I didn't even hear him do it. 
> Also, that was the demo phone.  But when I got my phone, it was on, too. 
> It takes a minute after you turn on the phone, and then it says "screen 
> reader started".  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:53 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Arlene
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>
> Roger, I could understand completely why you don't have the data on your
> phones. I was just asking about that since I'm so curious when it comes to
> these flip phones to know all they can do. I'm not swallowed up by these
> phones though that I can't think of anything else, as in the case with 
> some
> individuals with smart phones. Whatever comes included in the phone, I 
> like
> to see if I could work some of the different items while other individuals
> wouldn't care so much about that. Such as on the 4 lip model flip phones 
> we
> have, I can use the calculator. on a few of them I could use the calendar.
> When it comes to some of these other items that are included,  some phones
> are easier than others. I'm really satisfied with these phones, for me and
> my boyfriend, these phones include just enough of what we want in a cell
> phone, plus having the speech and being able to navigate through the 
> menues
> and options in the phones to either adjust a setting or send a text 
> message
> or write in a new text message. We don't do facebook or twitter, though we
> use our computers for email and going on the internet. It would be neat to
> have a notetaker though. In fact way back in 1996 my first experience with
> going on the internet was with a braille and speak I had at the time. At 
> the
> time I didn't have a computer yet, it was a year later when I got the
> computer. I'm not being critical to anyone that has a smart phone, but if 
> I
> ever get use to the android phone I have or if I ever get an i phone, I
> wouldn't feel the need to do the many things on my phone, as others do,
> using it for just about everything, like using it as a second computer. 
> Such
> things as listening to books on it, not even newsline since I could just
> dial it from either my house phone or simple flip phone, having a music
> service or a few types of music services. Possibly if I had some sort of
> smart phone I might get some apps for scanning and color identifyer and
> maybe a moneyidentifier app, besides the stand alone machines that I
> wouldn't get rid of because I would have them all tthose kinds of items on
> the phone. I guess if you have all that stuff on one's smart  phone it's
> like putting all your eggs in one basket. If something goes wrong with the
> phone, all of that will be gone until you get your phone fixed or 
> replaced.
> We're glad we have these stand alone machines, like the color identifier,
> the gps, the money identifier, blood pressure machine, and even 
> calculator.
> I could understand and thank you, for pointing out why we see few flip
> phones in the stores. I guess I just got lucky with the verizon store 
> having
> the kyocera back in the summer. I don't remember right now if they had any
> others. They probably didn't because if they had we would have looked at 
> any
> others they had. I was just so excited, in july of 2014, after my friend
> Donna and I both purchased the t-mobile samsung  t-199, which we didn't 
> know
> had speech in it when we purchased the phone. Anyway the next day, Donna
> who's sighted was going through the menues of the phone and saw what was
> called talkback, and she tried it to see if it talked and surenough it 
> did.
> I was out of the room for a little while, and when I came back in the 
> room,
> she was really excited and she was telling me she had something to show 
> me.
> I was so surprised too. Beginning that night we started exploring what I
> could do with the phone. The first few things I did was to write in a few
> contacts, and wrote a text message to one of our friends. I was so worried
> along the line, like that kyocera I had back then that the speech would 
> have
> been somewhat halfbaked but it didn't disappoint me, everything talked. 
> The
> only exception in the contacts there a few fields you can't fill in, it 
> just
> doesn't talk on a few ffields, but adding and writing in a contact for 
> most
> of the fields is fine. I'll tell you, I'll never forget when she 
> discovered
> that phone talked and how we went through with me doing different things
> with the phone, it was so wonderful, with this being 2014, it took me back
> to 8 years before that in 2006 when I had the nokia 6600 with mobile 
> speaks.
> Now considering with the accessibility, the speech being included in the
> phone it doesn't cost any extra than the price of the phone now. I'm going
> to call my verizon store just to see if they have the phones you and your
> wife have, if they don't I could send away to for them as you said to do. 
> I
> would really love to see them. I'm just going through my messages, so
> hopefully you were able to give us an idea of what it sounds like.I wonder
> if it has the same voice the other lg phones have. It's so wonderful that 
> we
> can share information about all this.
>
> Arlene
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Behm via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
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> Cc: "Roger Behm" <aistech at ameritech.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>
>
>> Hi Arlene,
>>
>> You can go on the internet with the LG Terra and Alt 2, but neither my 
>> wife
>> nor I have any interest in doing so with the phones, nor want to pay for 
>> a
>> data plan. We both use our home computers to facebook or other things. 
>> Cell
>> phones do not andn will not control our lives like so many people have 
>> let
>> their cell phones, especially the smart phones take over their lives!
>>
>> Your chances of finding any flip phones in a Verizon store is very slim,
>> since there is no profit in them for the sales person.
>>
>> You can always order one from Verizon national store and if you do not 
>> like
>> it you can return it in their trial period and no cost to you.
>>
>> I do get messages from facebook and sometimes I reply to say happy 
>> birthday
>> jim, but that is through text messaging back to facebook.
>> My plan has unlimited calling, text messaging, sending pictures  etc.
>> The LG Terra and my wifes LG Alt 2 do everything we want and I leave the
>> rest to my BrailleNote Touch or home computers.
>>
>> Regards,
>> roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:45 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Arlene
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>
>> I'm just wondering Roger with the lg tera and the flip 2, if you did have
>> data would you be able to go on the internet? I mainly use my computer 
>> for
>> going on the internet, but it's great that with some of these simple 
>> phones
>> that you can do it to an extent. Sometime I'll have to go to the verizon
>> store and see these 2 phones. All these simpler phones are great for 
>> thing
>> to use your phone as a phone as you said, Ashley, and to be able to 
>> navigat
>> through the menues, ti write in your own contacts, go into the settings 
>> if
>> need be and other things. I like using the calculator on both phones, the
>> gusto 3 and the kyocera. As far as the kyocera's voice, it reminds me of 
>> a
>> softer toned seri voice in a way. It would be interesting to know what 
>> the
>> voice speech sounds like on the lg tera and the flip 2. I'm wondering if 
>> it
>> might be the same voice as the lg 450 and 470.
>>
>> Arlene
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>
>>
>>> Roger,
>>>
>>> thanks for chiming in with a personal experience and a good one.
>>> After all we hear a lot about what does not work in electronics.
>>>
>>> Like Sandra, I'm looking for a more accessible flip phone. Features I 
>>> need
>>
>>> are the ability to read the address book, menus such as my missed calls,
>>> access voice mail, buttons I can feel since my current one has small
>>> buttons that is hard to feel although I do manage to do it, and the
>>> ability to read and send text messages.
>>>
>>> Can you explain what the voice sounds like? Did you say it does not
>>> connect to the internet but does send texts?
>>> My phone currently is with verizon and its an lg model.
>>> I like the ability on it to press one button such as 3 and it calls the
>>> number that was programmed into it such as I press a number and it calls
>>> my mom.
>>> I'm not sure if that is standard on flip phones or not.
>>>
>>> Also, what is the alt 2? Is this a kind of flip phone? Does it work on
>>> verizon's service?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for such information and its helpful to learn of simple
>>> phones with no data service needed for those of us who really just 
>>> prefer
>>> to use a phone as a phone. I'm certainly interested to use the internet
>>> sometimes, but I'd rather use a larger device for that so I'm thinking 
>>> of
>>> getting a tablet soon. Have a laptop currently wich services as my 
>>> mobile
>>> device.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Roger Behm via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:15 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Roger Behm
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>
>>> Hi Arlene,
>>>
>>> I own the LG Terra flip phone and a few of my customers have bought them
>>> too
>>> and love them for low price and accessibility,  having a free screen
>>> reader,
>>> 1/8 inch ear phone jack, bgreat speaker phone, really good sound on head
>>> phones or built in ear speaker or speaker phone, buttons are easy to 
>>> feel
>>> and have markings on the send, end call, and the 5 way cross controls.
>>>
>>> Price is usually around $50.00, I got mine through national Verizon for
>>> $21.00 and they waved the activation fee.
>>>
>>> No data plan, bluettoh, can go on the internet, the menus are totally
>>> accessible and you can even take a picture very easy too and attach it 
>>> to
>>> a
>>> text message.
>>>
>>> My wife bought her an LG Alt 2 flip phone, because she is sighted and
>>> wanted
>>> a little bigger screen and a 5 pixel camera.
>>> It also can turn on full read on on to speak everything, but she said 
>>> turn
>>> it off, it drove her crazy, since she doesn't need the screen reader.
>>> She paid $79.00 plus $40 activation fee when she upgraded.
>>>
>>> It uses a micro usb charging cable just like the victor stream 2 and vr
>>> trek
>>> and many other devices.
>>>
>>> It is not easy to find in the local cell phone store, since the sales
>>> persons want to sell you a smart phone for much better commission in it
>>> for
>>> them.
>>>
>>> If you are not wanting a smart phone and the high cost of the smart 
>>> phone
>>> and data plan, then I would strongly recommend the LG Terra or LG alt2
>>> flip
>>> phones.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:20 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Arlene
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>
>>> I have heard of the Tera phone, but I hadn't thought about that one for 
>>> a
>>> long time. I've never seen that phone. Due to my experience with the lg
>>> 450
>>> and the lg 470, I'm rather hessitant about lg phones. I won't say that
>>> they
>>> are all awful, but something is very wrong where when the speech goes 
>>> out
>>> on
>>>
>>> the phone, especially after the first night of having the phone. The lg
>>> phones with the speech seems to work a bit differently than some of the
>>> other phones, in some ways I think that could be improved, but at least
>>> they
>>>
>>> did in cluded the speech on some of their phones.
>>>
>>> Arlene
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope that is more accessible than the LG 4500 I had several years ago.
>>>>  Many menu options simply would not return any spoken feedback when 
>>>> used
>>>> with that model.  Any LG electronics I treat with suspicion going
>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 20:59:27
>>>>> From: evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: evelyn weckerly <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandra,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are with Verizon, check out the LG Tera.  It has full screen
>>>>> read-out-in  other words, everything talks.  It's much bigger than 
>>>>> older
>>>>> LG
>>>>> flip phones.  As for contracts, the big companies have been doing away
>>>>> with
>>>>> them.  I got mine a couple months ago and just paid for the phone
>>>>> outright
>>>>> and am on no contract any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evelyn
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Sandra Streeter via Electronics-Talk 
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>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:40:27 -0500
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I???? finally deciding that, in their current iterations, I am
>>>>> just
>>>
>>>>> not
>>>>> made for smartphones, so have come to the somewhat painful but also
>>>>> liberating decision to investigate currently-available flip phones.  I
>>>>> had a
>>>>> Haven back in the day, and also tried the LGNV 3 and Gusto, but found
>>>>> they
>>>>> weren???? easy to text with.  I am totally blind, and so need full TTS
>>>>> so
>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> can navigate and use functions without sighted assistance; preferably 
>>>>> a
>>>>> track-phone, but willing to go with plans if I have to????ust would 
>>>>> like
>>>>> not
>>>>> to spend some money on contracts, monthly bills, etc.  Any ideas?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandra
>>>>>
>>>>> ????f a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is
>>>>> because
>>>
>>>>> he
>>>>> hears a different drummer.  Let him step to the music he hears, 
>>>>> however
>>>>> measured or far away.??????
>>>>> (Henry David Thoreau)
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