[Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone

Jordan Gallacher jordanandseptember at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 19:34:07 UTC 2018 

You both are a disgrace to the NFB. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I agree completely with Ron, and I'll take it a step farther.  I believe that disabled persons have brought the issue of fake service animals onto themselves by insisting that service dog users should not be required to produce any kind of proof that their animal is a service animal. Such documentation would be a deterrant to a person trying to pass off their dog as a service animal.  Yes, it is true that one could fake such documentation, but didn't you ever use a fake ID to get into a bar when you were under 21?  This didn't make ID's useless, as most people aren't going to take the trouble to acquire such fake documentation.
> 
> Andy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Gallacher via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Ronald Smith" <ronsmith131 at gmail.com>; "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone
> 
> 
>> Sorry no. We should not have to disclose that information.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I disagree with Tracy's position and a few others below!
>>> I'm blind, but not a dog user.
>>> 
>>> If a driver is indeed allergic to dogs, a blind person should have the curtosy to inform Uber or Lyft that they have a dog guide.
>>> This may influence the size of vehicle if there are several people traveling with or without dogs and especially if one selects a pool trip.
>>> You could have a pool passenger who is allergic to dogs as well. Now, I don't know how one would handle this sticky situation.
>>> But 99&44 100% people on Uber I'm sure don't ride with dogs. So why penalize one driver who can pick up many more non dog users than dog users?
>>> To me, having a dog guide is like adding a second passenger or PCA equivalent, thus should be required to declare itwhen booking a trip with above or even Access or train and air as well...
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:14 PM
>>> 
>>> Long live the golden rule.
>>> Wow!
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 6:44 AM
>>> 
>>> I do not say I have a service dog when I call for Uber.  If someone is
>>> allergic, then they shouldn't be driving for the public.  Harsh?  Maybe,
>>> but it's excuse #1, and most of the time it's just that, an excuse not to do something.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> On Behalf Of Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 6:05 PM
>>> 
>>> As a point of curiosity and personally not a service dog user, do you
>>> identify the fact that you have a dog when calling for a ride? I'm thinking
>>> that what if a person was legitimately allergic to dogs. I realize that this
>>> is not the reason most would not want them in their cars. Understand, I do
>>> appreciate anyone getting a raw deal with a dog and I personally am a
>>> doglover, just don't have a dog of any type currently. Still think of the
>>> ones from the past, however. Oh well, so much for that. Do take care and
>>> hope for good rides for all.
>>> 
>>> Carol Jean
>>> 
>>> From: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:55 PM
>>> 
>>> Well, if this driver admitted directly to you that he was allergic to dogs,
>>> he wasn't very bright.  I suppose he could have given you a low rating
>>> instead to protect himself, and then you would have had no way of knowing
>>> why you were being denied service in the future.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> From: Mike via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:34 PM
>>> 
>>> I just got a lyft driver permanently removed because he said he was allergic to dogs. It was very easy & all done with in 1 hour. They even gave me  back the money I payed another driver to go home & gave me a $5 credit. You can call Lyft at 503-503-1748.
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> From: Andy Baracco  <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:39 PM
>>> 
>>> What you say can be true, but it also can be true for taxi and even
>>> paratransit drivers.  Uber and lyft do have policies in place regarding
>>> service animals, but that doesn't garantee that there won't be issues.
>>> This is why it is important to be familiar with local, state, and Federal antidiscrimination laws, especially those that pertain to people with disabilities and service animals.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:37 AM
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind that Uber and Lift may not be available in all areas.  In general, if you live in a large city and your neighborhood is not well served by yellow taxi cabs, it is not likely to be served by these ride-sharing services, either.  That's because Uber and Lift drivers tend to concentrate where the cabs are, because that's where the business is.
>>> Taxi cabs tend to serve rich neighborhoods and avoid poor neighborhoods.
>>> The same is true of Uber and Lift.  Another dirty little secret about
>>> these services that many consumers are not aware of is that drivers
>>> actually rate passengers, so that passengers that consistently receive
>>> negative ratings from drivers bmay not be able to book rides in the
>>> future.  So a blind passenger who travels with a guide dog may constantly
>>> receive negative ratings from drivers who dislike dogs riding in their
>>> vehicles.  To me, this is a blatant violation of privacy rights.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:25 PM
>>>>>> I believe that you set up payment info when you sign up for Go Go. It is
>>>>>> done with a credit card, as Uber and Lyft drivers do not accept cash, even
>>>>>> though I believe that you can tip an Uber driver with cash.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Russillo via Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "Michael Russillo" <plrussillo at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>>>>>> Smartphone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ah, interesting. Good idea; I'm curious as to how one pays their driver;
>>>>>>> I understand with the smartphone app the rider sets up payment through
>>>>>>> PayPal or something so the Uber or Lyft driver can be paid; I'm curious
>>>>>>> if this'll work with this service, and how safe is it to give monetary
>>>>>>> info to Gogo if one goes through them to register? Meanwhile i'll take a
>>>>>>> gander at the site; thanks for that info; could be really helpful as I
>>>>>>> don't own any smartphone and I'm not of the tapping school, but
>>>>>>> old-school physical buttons.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 9:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>>>> So this service uses Uber and Lift drivers?
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>> cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:31 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Electronic Talks <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>>>>>>>> Smartphone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone:
>>>>>>>> GoGo is an automated hotline that lets people use Uber and Lyft without
>>>>>>>> needing a smartphone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Uber and Lyft are available nationally; when you use GoGoGrandparent,
>>>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>>>> send you whichever one is cheapest at the time that you make your
>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>> for a ride. Their prices are typically up to 40 percent less than the
>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>> of a cab.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Using GoGo is simple: callers call from a number they have registered
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> us and hear a menu of options. They can press 1 for a car to be sent to
>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>> them up from their home, 2 for a car to be sent to pick them up where we
>>>>>>>> dropped them off last, or 0 to speak with an operator for a custom
>>>>>>>> pickup
>>>>>>>> location. Once the driver arrives, they tell the driver where they want
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> go. When you make a request, a car shows up at your door within fifteen
>>>>>>>> minutes, typically less.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To register free of charge, please call (855) 464-6872 or visit
>>>>>>>> <gogograndparent.com/register>.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Vince
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