[Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone

Tue Apr 10 20:07:06 UTC 2018

A driver who claims that his allergy to dogs is disabling or even 
life-threatening would have no difficulty finding a board certified 
specialist to attest to his claim.  Contrary to what this organization would 
like to have its members believe, sighted people have rights under the ADA, 
too.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:00 PM
To: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a 
Smartphone

If such an attack causes loss of life, the dog owner at the very least is
in line for a wrongful death suit.  Case open. On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Peter
Donahue via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:43:08
> From: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>     Smartphone
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> Not so. Allergies aren't considered a disabling condition. Case
> closed!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk
> Cc: Jude DaShiell
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> Smartphone
>
> If disclosure failures get uber into legal trouble as a result of another
> passenger's allergy attack I expect Uber will make it a hard requirement 
> in
> its terms of service and get support from our legal system.
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:53:27
>> From: Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>>     Smartphone
>>
>> We shouldn't have to disclose it, though I
> do understand why
>> people would, and why they wouldn't. I don't think that disclosure
>> should be a hard requirement though.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf
>> Of Jordan Gallacher via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:48 AM
>> To: Ronald Smith <ronsmith131 at gmail.com>; Discussion of accessible
>> home electronics and appliances <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>> Smartphone
>>
>> Sorry no. We should not have to disclose that information.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree with Tracy's position and a few others below!
>>> I'm blind, but not a dog user.
>>>
>>> If a driver is indeed allergic to dogs, a blind person should have
>>> the
>> curtosy to inform Uber or Lyft that they have a dog guide.
>>> This may influence the size of vehicle if there are several people
>> traveling with or without dogs and especially if one selects a pool trip.
>>> You could have a pool passenger who is allergic to dogs as well. Now,
>>> I
>> don't know how one would handle this sticky situation.
>>> But 99&44 100% people on Uber I'm sure don't ride with dogs. So why
>> penalize one driver who can pick up many more non dog users than dog
> users?
>>> To me, having a dog guide is like adding a second passenger or PCA
>> equivalent, thus should be required to declare itwhen booking a trip
>> with above or even Access or train and air as well...
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:14 PM
>>>
>>> Long live the golden rule.
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 6:44 AM
>>>
>>> I do not say I have a service dog when I call for Uber.  If someone
>>> is allergic, then they shouldn't be driving for the public.  Harsh?
>>> Maybe, but it's excuse #1, and most of the time it's just that, an
>>> excuse
>> not to do something.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> On Behalf Of Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 6:05 PM
>>>
>>> As a point of curiosity and personally not a service dog user, do you
>>> identify the fact that you have a dog when calling for a ride? I'm
>>> thinking that what if a person was legitimately allergic to dogs. I
>>> realize that this is not the reason most would not want them in their
>>> cars. Understand, I do appreciate anyone getting a raw deal with a
>>> dog and I personally am a doglover, just don't have a dog of any type
>>> currently. Still think of the ones from the past, however. Oh well,
>>> so much for that. Do take care and hope for good rides for all.
>>>
>>> Carol Jean
>>>
>>> From: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:55 PM
>>>
>>> Well, if this driver admitted directly to you that he was allergic to
>>> dogs, he wasn't very bright.  I suppose he could have given you a low
>>> rating instead to protect himself, and then you would have had no way
>>> of knowing why you were being denied service in the future.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>> From: Mike via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:34 PM
>>>
>>> I just got a lyft driver permanently removed because he said he was
>> allergic to dogs. It was very easy & all done with in 1 hour. They
>> even gave me  back the money I payed another driver to go home & gave me 
>> a
> $5 credit.
>> You can call Lyft at 503-503-1748.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> From: Andy Baracco  <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:39 PM
>>>
>>> What you say can be true, but it also can be true for taxi and even
>>> paratransit drivers.  Uber and lyft do have policies in place
>>> regarding service animals, but that doesn't garantee that there won't
>>> be
>> issues.
>>> This is why it is important to be familiar with local, state, and
>>> Federal
>> antidiscrimination laws, especially those that pertain to people with
>> disabilities and service animals.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:37 AM
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that Uber and Lift may not be available in all areas.
>>> In
>> general, if you live in a large city and your neighborhood is not well
>> served by yellow taxi cabs, it is not likely to be served by these
>> ride-sharing services, either.  That's because Uber and Lift drivers
>> tend to concentrate where the cabs are, because that's where the business
> is.
>>> Taxi cabs tend to serve rich neighborhoods and avoid poor neighborhoods.
>>> The same is true of Uber and Lift.  Another dirty little secret about
>>> these services that many consumers are not aware of is that drivers
>>> actually rate passengers, so that passengers that consistently
>>> receive negative ratings from drivers bmay not be able to book rides
>>> in the future.  So a blind passenger who travels with a guide dog may
>>> constantly receive negative ratings from drivers who dislike dogs
>>> riding in their vehicles.  To me, this is a blatant violation of
>>> privacy
>> rights.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>> From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:25 PM I believe that you set up
>>>>>> payment info when you sign up for Go Go. It is done with a credit
>>>>>> card, as Uber and Lyft drivers do not accept cash, even though I
>>>>>> believe that you can tip an Uber driver with cash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Russillo via
>> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "Michael Russillo" <plrussillo at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft
>>>>>> Without a Smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, interesting. Good idea; I'm curious as to how one pays their
>>>>>>> driver; I understand with the smartphone app the rider sets up
>>>>>>> payment through PayPal or something so the Uber or Lyft driver
>>>>>>> can be paid; I'm curious if this'll work with this service, and
>>>>>>> how safe is it to give monetary info to Gogo if one goes through
>>>>>>> them to register? Meanwhile i'll take a gander at the site;
>>>>>>> thanks for that info; could be really helpful as I don't own any
>>>>>>> smartphone and I'm not of the tapping school, but old-school 
>>>>>>> physical
> buttons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 9:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>>>> So this service uses Uber and Lift drivers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drew Hunthausen
>>>>>>>> The No Excuses Blind Guy
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:31 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Electronic Talks <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without
>>>>>>>> a Smartphone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone:
>>>>>>>> GoGo is an automated hotline that lets people use Uber and Lyft
>>>>>>>> without needing a smartphone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Uber and Lyft are available nationally; when you use
>>>>>>>> GoGoGrandparent, we'll send you whichever one is cheapest at the
>>>>>>>> time that you make your request for a ride. Their prices are
>>>>>>>> typically up to 40 percent less than the cost of a cab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using GoGo is simple: callers call from a number they have
>>>>>>>> registered with us and hear a menu of options. They can press 1
>>>>>>>> for a car to be sent to pick them up from their home, 2 for a
>>>>>>>> car to be sent to pick them up where we dropped them off last,
>>>>>>>> or 0 to speak with an operator for a custom pickup location.
>>>>>>>> Once the driver arrives, they tell the driver where they want to
>>>>>>>> go. When you make a request, a car shows up at your door within
>>>>>>>> fifteen minutes, typically less.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To register free of charge, please call (855) 464-6872 or visit
>>>>>>>> <gogograndparent.com/register>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Vince
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