[Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone

Andy Baracco wq6r at socal.rr.com
Tue Apr 10 20:15:10 UTC 2018 

Your condemnation is not applicable, as I do not belong to the NFB.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Gallacher via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a 
Smartphone


> You both are a disgrace to the NFB.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I agree completely with Ron, and I'll take it a step farther.  I believe 
>> that disabled persons have brought the issue of fake service animals onto 
>> themselves by insisting that service dog users should not be required to 
>> produce any kind of proof that their animal is a service animal. Such 
>> documentation would be a deterrant to a person trying to pass off their 
>> dog as a service animal.  Yes, it is true that one could fake such 
>> documentation, but didn't you ever use a fake ID to get into a bar when 
>> you were under 21?  This didn't make ID's useless, as most people aren't 
>> going to take the trouble to acquire such fake documentation.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Gallacher via 
>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Ronald Smith" <ronsmith131 at gmail.com>; "Discussion of accessible 
>> home electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a 
>> Smartphone
>>
>>
>>> Sorry no. We should not have to disclose that information.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with Tracy's position and a few others below!
>>>> I'm blind, but not a dog user.
>>>>
>>>> If a driver is indeed allergic to dogs, a blind person should have the 
>>>> curtosy to inform Uber or Lyft that they have a dog guide.
>>>> This may influence the size of vehicle if there are several people 
>>>> traveling with or without dogs and especially if one selects a pool 
>>>> trip.
>>>> You could have a pool passenger who is allergic to dogs as well. Now, I 
>>>> don't know how one would handle this sticky situation.
>>>> But 99&44 100% people on Uber I'm sure don't ride with dogs. So why 
>>>> penalize one driver who can pick up many more non dog users than dog 
>>>> users?
>>>> To me, having a dog guide is like adding a second passenger or PCA 
>>>> equivalent, thus should be required to declare itwhen booking a trip 
>>>> with above or even Access or train and air as well...
>>>>
>>>> Just my opinion.
>>>> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:14 PM
>>>>
>>>> Long live the golden rule.
>>>> Wow!
>>>>
>>>> Vince
>>>>
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 6:44 AM
>>>>
>>>> I do not say I have a service dog when I call for Uber.  If someone is
>>>> allergic, then they shouldn't be driving for the public.  Harsh? 
>>>> Maybe,
>>>> but it's excuse #1, and most of the time it's just that, an excuse not 
>>>> to do something.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> On Behalf Of Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 6:05 PM
>>>>
>>>> As a point of curiosity and personally not a service dog user, do you
>>>> identify the fact that you have a dog when calling for a ride? I'm 
>>>> thinking
>>>> that what if a person was legitimately allergic to dogs. I realize that 
>>>> this
>>>> is not the reason most would not want them in their cars. Understand, I 
>>>> do
>>>> appreciate anyone getting a raw deal with a dog and I personally am a
>>>> doglover, just don't have a dog of any type currently. Still think of 
>>>> the
>>>> ones from the past, however. Oh well, so much for that. Do take care 
>>>> and
>>>> hope for good rides for all.
>>>>
>>>> Carol Jean
>>>>
>>>> From: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:55 PM
>>>>
>>>> Well, if this driver admitted directly to you that he was allergic to 
>>>> dogs,
>>>> he wasn't very bright.  I suppose he could have given you a low rating
>>>> instead to protect himself, and then you would have had no way of 
>>>> knowing
>>>> why you were being denied service in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>> From: Mike via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:34 PM
>>>>
>>>> I just got a lyft driver permanently removed because he said he was 
>>>> allergic to dogs. It was very easy & all done with in 1 hour. They even 
>>>> gave me  back the money I payed another driver to go home & gave me a 
>>>> $5 credit. You can call Lyft at 503-503-1748.
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Baracco  <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:39 PM
>>>>
>>>> What you say can be true, but it also can be true for taxi and even
>>>> paratransit drivers.  Uber and lyft do have policies in place regarding
>>>> service animals, but that doesn't garantee that there won't be issues.
>>>> This is why it is important to be familiar with local, state, and 
>>>> Federal antidiscrimination laws, especially those that pertain to 
>>>> people with disabilities and service animals.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:37 AM
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind that Uber and Lift may not be available in all areas.  In 
>>>> general, if you live in a large city and your neighborhood is not well 
>>>> served by yellow taxi cabs, it is not likely to be served by these 
>>>> ride-sharing services, either.  That's because Uber and Lift drivers 
>>>> tend to concentrate where the cabs are, because that's where the 
>>>> business is.
>>>> Taxi cabs tend to serve rich neighborhoods and avoid poor 
>>>> neighborhoods.
>>>> The same is true of Uber and Lift.  Another dirty little secret about
>>>> these services that many consumers are not aware of is that drivers
>>>> actually rate passengers, so that passengers that consistently receive
>>>> negative ratings from drivers bmay not be able to book rides in the
>>>> future.  So a blind passenger who travels with a guide dog may 
>>>> constantly
>>>> receive negative ratings from drivers who dislike dogs riding in their
>>>> vehicles.  To me, this is a blatant violation of privacy rights.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:25 PM
>>>>>>> I believe that you set up payment info when you sign up for Go Go. 
>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>> done with a credit card, as Uber and Lyft drivers do not accept 
>>>>>>> cash, even
>>>>>>> though I believe that you can tip an Uber driver with cash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Russillo via 
>>>>>>> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk" 
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Michael Russillo" <plrussillo at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Smartphone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah, interesting. Good idea; I'm curious as to how one pays their 
>>>>>>>> driver;
>>>>>>>> I understand with the smartphone app the rider sets up payment 
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> PayPal or something so the Uber or Lyft driver can be paid; I'm 
>>>>>>>> curious
>>>>>>>> if this'll work with this service, and how safe is it to give 
>>>>>>>> monetary
>>>>>>>> info to Gogo if one goes through them to register? Meanwhile i'll 
>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>> gander at the site; thanks for that info; could be really helpful 
>>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>>> don't own any smartphone and I'm not of the tapping school, but
>>>>>>>> old-school physical buttons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 9:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So this service uses Uber and Lift drivers?
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>> cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:31 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Electronic Talks <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>>>>>>>>> Smartphone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone:
>>>>>>>>> GoGo is an automated hotline that lets people use Uber and Lyft 
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> needing a smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uber and Lyft are available nationally; when you use 
>>>>>>>>> GoGoGrandparent,
>>>>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>>>>> send you whichever one is cheapest at the time that you make your
>>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>>> for a ride. Their prices are typically up to 40 percent less than 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>>> of a cab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using GoGo is simple: callers call from a number they have 
>>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> us and hear a menu of options. They can press 1 for a car to be 
>>>>>>>>> sent to
>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>> them up from their home, 2 for a car to be sent to pick them up 
>>>>>>>>> where we
>>>>>>>>> dropped them off last, or 0 to speak with an operator for a custom
>>>>>>>>> pickup
>>>>>>>>> location. Once the driver arrives, they tell the driver where they 
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> go. When you make a request, a car shows up at your door within 
>>>>>>>>> fifteen
>>>>>>>>> minutes, typically less.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To register free of charge, please call (855) 464-6872 or visit
>>>>>>>>> <gogograndparent.com/register>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vince
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