[Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote

Mon Nov 19 10:54:16 UTC 2018

Are you a former Charter customer or a former Time Warner customer?  A 
former Time Warner customer on another list also had a Spectrum 110 
accessible cable box installed recently, and reported that it has turned out 
to be a nightmare.  The box frequently freezes and sometimes takes up to 30 
minutes to reboot, and he is very upset that Spectrum has not been very 
helpful about resolving these problems.  They basically told him that there 
are bugs in the box's firmware that he'll just have to learn to live with 
for the time being.  Just by coincidence, my standard, non-accessible 
Spectrum cable box died suddenly last Tuesday, and I had a new, standard box 
installed the following day.  I asked the installer whether he knew anything 
about the Spectrum 110 accessible box.  He told me that although he had 
never installed one himself, he has heard from other technicians that there 
have been a lot of complaints about this box.  He explained that although 
Charter and Time Warner are now under the Spectrum umbrella, the two cable 
systems are incompatible.  The Spectrum 110 box was originally designed for 
Charter customers, and Spectrum figured they could make it work for Time 
Warner customers, as well, by updating the box's firmware.  Apparently, it 
has not worked out too well, and I'm glad I stuck with the standard, 
non-accessible box.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Susan Stanzel via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:06 PM
To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
Cc: slstanzel at kc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote

Hi Everyone,

I just got this because I called Spectrum on something else and asked about
it. I love it. I am still learning it. They have answered any question. I
took notes about each key. It is a much simpler remote. I can now access the
guide and ondemand.

Susie Stanzel

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:48 PM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Andy Baracco <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote

Gerald, I knew nothing about the box until I called Spectrum and got to lay
hands on it.  I would advise that you do the same rather than driving us all
crazy.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Gilland via Electronics-Talk"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Christopher Gilland" <clgilland07 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote

> We were legacy Time Warner customers, so the short version of my answer
> would be, no. Absolutely not. I mean, absolutely not, it wouldn't work.
> The boxes are two totally 100% different models altogether, and the old
> legacy Time Warner boxes had no speech in them, no accessibility
> whatsoever, and frankly, in my opinion were a major pain somewhere else.
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2018 04:23 PM, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>
>> Do you know whether the remote from your previous Spectrum/Time Warner
>> cable box works with your new Spectrum 110 box? The reason I'm asking is
>> because if I decided to have a Spectrum 110 box installed, assuming it's
>> available in my area, I would prefer to use my current remote, if
>> possible. It has separate buttons for TV and cable box power and no
>> dedicated button for selecting the TV input source.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Gilland via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:38 PM
>> To: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>> Cc: Christopher Gilland
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote
>>
>> Actually, no. As far as I'm aware. I could be wrong, but I was pretty
>> sure the top left was the box only, no TV. If you want the TV as well,
>> that's where you need all power which is on the top right. Note this
>> only works if the remote is programmed to the TV. Again, I could be
>> wrong, but that's at least how I understood it, and how it's working
>> over here.
>>
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/14/2018 03:06 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>> The top left button is for the TV. If you press it, the TV will go off
>>> and on, but the box will stay on.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Gilland via
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Christopher Gilland" <clgilland07 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gerald,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, the power buttons both are on the top left and right of the
>>>> rmoete. I discussed this quite thoroughly, or so I thought, in my
>>>> message. The top left of the remote is the power just simply for the
>>>> box, and nothing more. The top right is the all power which you are
>>>> stating you don't like.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I still really think you should have a tech show you the rmoete. NO one

>>>> says you have to agree to take it. But at least then you could get your

>>>> hands on it, and feel the thing, then make an educated decision..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's just my personal take on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2018 05:39 PM, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this comprehensive description of the Spectrum 110 remote.
>>>>> Does it have a separate power button to turn the TV on /off without
>>>>> also turning the box on/off? I don't like turning both devices on and
>>>>> off at the same time because in my experience, if you don't aim the
>>>>> remote exactly right, you could turn off the box without turning off
>>>>> the TV or vice versa. Having a button to turn off the box separately
>>>>> but not one for turning off the TV is asinine because when you turn
>>>>> off the box, you do not really turn it off because it is still using
>>>>> power just as if it was on, so you might as well keep it on all the
>>>>> time, which is what I do now. The only way to really turn off the box
>>>>> is to unplug it. And I don't like the location of the input source
>>>>> button between the two power buttons, because if you have fumble
>>>>> fingers like me, you could accidently hit this button by mistake
>>>>> instead of the right power button to turn off the box and TV, and then

>>>>> the next time you try to turn them on, you won't hear anything because

>>>>> you inadvertently changed the input from cable box to something else,
>>>>> and you would then need sighted help to restore things to normal. Very

>>>>> bad design. For me, the poor location of the input source button and
>>>>> the absence of a separate TV power button are deal breakers, and so
>>>>> I'll just stick with my non-accessible box for now. At least I can
>>>>> control the box and TV separately, and can't accidently screw up the
>>>>> input source.
>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Gilland via
>>>>> Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:54 PM
>>>>> To: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Cc: Christopher Gilland
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box Remote
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerald,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a little research, and determined that I own both the Spectrum
>>>>> 110, as well as the Spectrum 210 boxes. The only difference between
>>>>> the
>>>>> two is that the 110 doesn't offer DVR, whereas the 210 does. Both
>>>>> remotes are totally the same, and so are the actual boxes. That said,
>>>>> on
>>>>> to your question about the remote.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess, honestly, this is a bit of a subjective question.
>>>>> Realistically, the buttons don't entirely all seem to have different
>>>>> shapes to them, however, they are incredibly tactile in my opinion,
>>>>> and
>>>>> are super super easy to locate/identify. Your menu button is very very
>>>>> big and is directly below your arrow keys which are arranged in a
>>>>> circular pattern almost like a D-Pad. It kind a reminds me a bit of
>>>>> the
>>>>> shape of a diamond. It's very obvious.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If it will help, I'll describe below the entire remote.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On your remote, at the very top left and top right are two buttons.
>>>>> Yes,
>>>>> there is a smaller round button between the two upper left and right
>>>>> buttons, but I'm not covering that smaller button quite yet for a very
>>>>> very good reason that you'll understand shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The top left button is power. This only will power on/off the cable
>>>>> box,
>>>>> but nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The top right button is all power. Once configured to have the remote
>>>>> be
>>>>> programmed/pared to your TV, which by the way, a technition very very
>>>>> easily could do for you, this button will then power off everything.
>>>>> So
>>>>> you press it, your box, and your TV both would turn off and on
>>>>> together.
>>>>> This is the button, once all is proprerly programmed that I would
>>>>> recommend using for your power.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I did not cover that smaller button is because in between
>>>>> these two buttons, straight virtically aligned down the remote are
>>>>> starting with that smaller button, 4 buttons. So in other words, if
>>>>> you
>>>>> find that small button in between the power and all power, then slide
>>>>> your finger straight down, there are 3 more buttons right below. So
>>>>> those 4 buttons including the smaller one kind of make a vertical
>>>>> stack,
>>>>> if you wanna think of it that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to approach it that way, as this is how my mother tought the
>>>>> remote to me, and I found doing it this way made things very very
>>>>> logical. So, the top most button, that's the smaller one between the
>>>>> power and all power is the input source button.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, what happens is, when the remote is pared correctly to your
>>>>> TV, you can press this button multiple times to cycle through the
>>>>> different input sources like HDMI1, HDMI2, TV/Coaxial, etc on your
>>>>> television which the box is connected to. Note that Guide Narration
>>>>> won't read this menu so, it may be a slight bit tricky unless you have

>>>>> a
>>>>> Samsung smart TV, or something as well with built in speech. If you
>>>>> do,
>>>>> then you're in business. Normally, you'd probably not often need to
>>>>> mess
>>>>> with this button if you were planning to just watch TV. This would
>>>>> only
>>>>> come into play if you have things also connected like an Apple TV, a
>>>>> Roku, a DVD/Blueray player, etc. Even then, there are totally
>>>>> accessible
>>>>> ways of getting around this without the use of the input button. If
>>>>> anyone wants to know more about that, just ask.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In this little virtical button strip I'm mentioning, just below the
>>>>> input button is the search button. This will bring up a keyboard where
>>>>> you can arrow up and down as well as left and right to find the letter
>>>>> you need to insert, then hit select/OK, to insert the character. This
>>>>> lets you search anything basically in the guide. So, TV shows, movies,
>>>>> acter/actrices, channel names, pretty much anything. Thing of it like
>>>>> a
>>>>> spotlight search for your cable box. Just a little teaser. I can't go
>>>>> into much, being I'm on the Spectrum accessibility private beta
>>>>> testing
>>>>> team, but I'll at least as a teaser tell you this, being it's publicly
>>>>> been announced, so I don't think I'm breaking any NDA to say this.
>>>>> Realize though, no reps would have yet been trained on this, so I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> guarantee that all reps you speak to are gonna know about it. There is
>>>>> however a voice command controled remote in the works. I haven't seen
>>>>> it
>>>>> personally, but from what I understand, you'll hit a button, then
>>>>> speak
>>>>> your search, or whatever command you want, such as A&E, and it would
>>>>> tune there. Or you could say, cancel DVR series: Friends. Whatever.
>>>>> For
>>>>> now though, you gotta type, or navigate the guide. Both of which are
>>>>> extremely easy to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone wants, I'd be happy to make an audio demo of the search
>>>>> feature.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just below the search button is the DVR button. This will be on both
>>>>> remotes, the non-DVR, and the DVR boxes. On the 110's that don't have
>>>>> DVR ability, I'm not entirely sure what would happen if pushed. I can
>>>>> find out if anyone's curious, but I've honestly not tried. My guess
>>>>> is,
>>>>> you'd get an error on the screen. You'd not fowel anything up though.
>>>>> It
>>>>> just wouldn't do anything. If however you do! have DVR, then this will
>>>>> take you into the DVR screen whereby you can browse your recordings,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally the last button in this group right before sliding down again
>>>>> and hitting the arrow keys, is the play/pause key.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, you have something a bit interesting. Easy, don't worry, but a
>>>>> little interesting. The arrow keys are arranged in what will feel like

>>>>> a
>>>>> big huge diamond. The top point of the diamond is your up arrow, the
>>>>> bottom is down, the left point is obviously your left arrow, and the
>>>>> right side is the right arrow. I know textually describing this sounds
>>>>> super super super confusing. I assure you though it isn't so! It
>>>>> really
>>>>> isn't! I promise. When you actually feel it, it's not. Trust me!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Border surrounding these arrow keys are 4 round buttons. So, if you
>>>>> can
>>>>> imagine this diamond sitting inside of a square made up of 4 buttons,
>>>>> that is what you have. The upper left most button is guide. Upper
>>>>> right
>>>>> is Info. This will give you details about a show or series, what
>>>>> channel
>>>>> you're watching currently, etc. The bottom left of these 4 buttons is
>>>>> the back key, and the bottom right is exit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you locate the down arrow key, then slide your finger straight down
>>>>> from there, you'll land on a bit round button. This is the menu key,
>>>>> which by the way, yes. If you have guide Narration turned on, this is
>>>>> totally 100% accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On that same row with the menu key, just to the left of it is a big
>>>>> rectangular key. This button used to be called the A key, and I think
>>>>> even the spectrum guide software still will refer to it as such. I
>>>>> really really wish they'd change that, as it's been known to really
>>>>> confuse people. Now, they are calling that button the options key.
>>>>> Think
>>>>> of this key basically as bringing up your context menu on the
>>>>> computer.
>>>>> It's kind a like hitting your applications key, or right clicking on
>>>>> an
>>>>> item.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, when you're in live TV, if you hit the options button it brings up
>>>>> your accessibility menu. This is where you can turn on descriptive
>>>>> video, as well as a few other things. I'll get to that in a second.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other side, the right side of that menu button that we
>>>>> discussed
>>>>> right below the down arrow is the record button.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I don't know what would happen on the 110 boxes without DVR if
>>>>> you hit it. Probably an error message, but not totally sure. Again, I
>>>>> can find out if anyone's curious.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Below this starts your numeric keypad. The number 5 is concaved, and
>>>>> is
>>>>> extremely extremely tactile, and very very unique from all other
>>>>> buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the extreme bottom center, is 0. There is no star or number sign
>>>>> keys
>>>>> to the left or right of 0. It's all off in the dead smack bottom
>>>>> center
>>>>> all by itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the entire remote.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it easy to use? Again, I think that depends on your preception. I
>>>>> don't do the best with really small or crowded buttons, but for me,
>>>>> this
>>>>> was extremely extremely easy to learn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If nothing else, just have a tech come out with the remote and box,
>>>>> and
>>>>> let you feel it. They don't have to activate the box until you feel
>>>>> like
>>>>> it is something you can do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, realize that they do offer large button remotes, if that would
>>>>> help, that do have different shaped buttons. I just don't know what
>>>>> all
>>>>> functionality like getting to the guide, etc, they'd give you, if
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/13/2018 01:25 PM, Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The buttons on the Spectrum 110 Box Remote are marked in very much
>>>>>> the same way so they're very distinguishable from one-another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:42 AM
>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>> Cc: Gerald Levy
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the remote control that comes with the Spectrum 110 have buttons

>>>>>> that
>>>>>> are easy to identify by size and shape? ? Or are the buttons of
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> shapes and sizes so that they are difficult to distinguish by touch?
>>>>>> My
>>>>>> current Spectrum remote has buttons of different sizes and shapes and

>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are arranged in a logical layout. The numeric keys are shaped like
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> numerals themselves, making this a great remote for a blind consumer.

>>>>>> But
>>>>>> if the buttons on the Spectrum 110 remote are not well differentiated

>>>>>> and
>>>>>> thus difficult to identify by touch, then there would be little point

>>>>>> in
>>>>>> upgrading to this box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 6:47 PM
>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>> Cc: Andy Baracco
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sherri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just call the Spectrum accessibility line and they'll step you
>>>>>> through the
>>>>>> process. Within an hour of my call, I was up and running with 2
>>>>>> boxes. You
>>>>>> may not have that kind of luck as far as speed is concerned, but you
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> get the box. I am surprised that the existance of the box was not
>>>>>> publicized more. I only found out about it when I read Peter's post.
>>>>>> One
>>>>>> thing to keep in mind is if you already have the Roku that Sectrum
>>>>>> provides,
>>>>>> you will have to give it up if you want the new box.
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sherri Brun via Electronics-Talk"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "Sherri Brun" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 3:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't even know about the existence of this box. I certainly
>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>> learning about it and will be in touch with Spectrum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sherri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 5:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Andy and everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although we had other problems with the Spectrum 110 Box the HDMI
>>>>>>> Port issue hasn't been one of them. Perhaps your cable company and
>>>>>>> the TV
>>>>>>> manufacturer's tech support could help you solve this problem.
>>>>>>> Otherwise
>>>>>>> it's a great access solution and will hopefully be improved in the
>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>> All the best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 2:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>>> Cc: Andy Baracco
>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Spectrum 110 Cable Box
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recently received the Spectrum 110 talking cable box. It works
>>>>>>> fine, but
>>>>>>> every time i turn the system on the box is set to the wrong input,
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> have to reset it to HDMI 1. Is anyone here using this box and
>>>>>>> experiencing
>>>>>>> this issue, and if you have, how did you resolve it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
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