[Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer

Jenny Perdue jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 31 22:20:09 UTC 2020 

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

Just because we have the right to do something doesn’t mean we should.

Yep, I will let it go for long but they’re done. But maybe it would last longer I did not gonna be used.



Jenny

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> On Aug 31, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bingo and exactly my point. 
> All businesses have people that take advantage of a good thing which is why there are limits on samples and the like. 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Terry via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Terry
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
> 
> If a business is offering a free service, it's up to them to make sure that they don't go broke doing it. Put a limit on it and it would have worked out better. You aren't taking advantage of something if it's offered to you. I don't use the service myself. I find that be my eyes is fine for me and it doesn't take me that long to complete a task.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laz via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Laz
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
> 
> I Partly agree with your sentiments Jennie. However actually the movie vault is a bad example as there's more to the story than meets the eye. They were getting all that for free from the hard work of a very kind gentleman in the UK who for health reasons had to cut back and stop offering the TV shows. So instead of them paying for the file storage needs, they got rid of the TV shows section and began asking for donations when all they do is allow that very kind gentleman to maintain just his movie links on their site. And no, they never paid him a dime for his hard work which they took credit for. Talk about entitled.
> 
> There are other places where one can pick up audio described movies and TV shows.
> 
> Stay well,
> 
> Laz
> 
>> On 8/31/20, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> That’s exactly the attitude that’s caused this in the first place.
>> 
>> Something for nothing, I know people that played cards using the fat 
>> free five minutes because they were too damn cheap to buy it on their 
>> own. That’s crappy for those of us that pay for it.
>> 
>> The attitude is why a lot of our services such as blind mice mart 
>> movie vault, etc., have been removed. Because it’s always somebody 
>> should give you some thing. Do you know what, that makes BlindOf those 
>> something for nothing Of those something for nothing people.
>> 
>> Just cause we’re blind does it mean everything‘s entitled to us 
>> whether or not it’s free or not. people look really stupid and really 
>> bad and I am thankful that I’m not one.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Christopher Chaltain via 
>>> Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm no expert on AIRA, but I'm not sure how someone can abuse an 
>>> unlimited plan or a free five minutes. I'm also not sure how taking 
>>> advantage of a free five minutes offered by AIRA is an example of 
>>> someone getting something for nothing. If people are taking advantage 
>>> of a service AIRA is offering then what's wrong with that?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>> Behalf Of David Diamond via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:25 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> <electronics-
>>>> talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019 at outlook.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>> 
>>>> I think they used to have a unlimited plan for X amount of dollars.  
>>>> That was done away with supposedly because of ones abusing it.
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue, I prefer to be called Jenny via 
>>>>> Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: August 29, 2020 4:28 PM
>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>> <electronics- talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: jlperdue3 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a feeling that they would limit it.  Way too many people used 
>>>>> and abused it so they could get a free ride.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree, I have no problem paying for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After a nasty separation I have to use it often, but I had to 
>>>>> downgrade to the
>>>>> $20 plan. But I still felt like I should pay for something instead 
>>>>> of taking advantage of the 5 minute option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The folks that abused it to get something for nothing did this. It 
>>>>> really sucks that people are always trying to get away with ! 
>>>>> something for
>>>> nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jennifer Penkaty soon to be Jennifer Perdue again and alwaysTo:
>>>>> Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Mervin Keck <blind5sparrow at outlook.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just moved from Florida to Pennsylvania on August 14th. It was 
>>>>> the first time I have made a major move without any useable vision. 
>>>>> I have made quite a few moves in my life but I always had some vision before.
>>>>> This time I had no physical help for the seven weeks I had to 
>>>>> prepare for the move. On the day I moved I did have three sighted 
>>>>> people help move but I was still on my own getting to the Hotel and 
>>>>> then getting to the airport the next morning and on the plane. It 
>>>>> was only the second time I ever flew commercial. I hate to fly. And 
>>>>> I don't care for crowds.
>>>>> During those seven weeks AIRA helped me many times and I was glad 
>>>>> to pay for their services. I  do not have the if its for free its 
>>>>> for me mentality. I believe in paying for quality services. I don't 
>>>>> mind saving for something I want and I don't mind budgeting so I 
>>>>> can afford something I need. I have no issues with AIRA limiting 
>>>>> their free calls so they can stay in business because I hope they 
>>>>> stay around a long time.
>>>>> I had a friend who helped me with a lot of online stuff. And AIRA 
>>>>> walked me through everything from changing addresses to reading 
>>>>> labels to finding new landmarks at the new place. Even learning my 
>>>>> new washer and dryer I just bought. AIRA even used team viewer and 
>>>>> helped me get the correct Keurig so I didn't end up with one with a 
>>>>> touch screen. I simply love those people and I recently upgraded my 
>>>>> plan because I knew with the recent move I would need them even more than usual.
>>>>> Merv
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Tom Evans via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 8:11 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>> <electronics- talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Tom Evans <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>> 
>>>>> Free of course doesn’t keep them alive and important to pay for 
>>>>> what I think is a complete game changer. I’m doing this from memory 
>>>>> as the plan change today. Free five minutes every 24 hours or If 
>>>>> you have a plan then free five minutes every four hours and then 
>>>>> with the plans you basically get a little less and dollar cost or a 
>>>>> few extra minutes. And the minutes do not roll over at the end of 
>>>>> the month. $20 for 30 minutes, $100 for 140 minutes or $200 for
>>>>> 300 minutes. If you run out then the bundles do roll over. $30 for 
>>>>> 25 minutes or $50 for 50 minutes or $90 for 100 minutes. Again 
>>>>> doing this from memory and if wrong please correct.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Susan Stanzel via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know there is an NFB plan for our members. Do any of you know 
>>>>>> what
>>>>> that costs?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Susie Stanzel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:31 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>>> <electronics-
>>>>> talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my experience, the agents are genuinely trying to be helpful.
>>>>>> If, say, the
>>>>> place I'm looking is dark, they'll ask if they can turn on the 
>>>>> phone flashlight, which takes a few seconds max.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk 
>>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:13 AM
>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>> Cc: Star Gazer
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this a real five minutes or what I call a game five minutes?
>>>>>> What if say, you are looking for something in your pantry, but the 
>>>>>> pantry
>>>>> light is off, will the agent tell you to turn the light on, or in 
>>>>> my husband’s words “play dumb” so you have to call back and pay?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:52 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AIRA is changing its free 5 minutes offer.  They were losing money 
>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>> I've pasted the relevant bit from the newsletter below my signature.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As of August 25 at 6:00am Pacific time, Aira will provide two 
>>>>>> tiers of "Free
>>>>> 5", one for guests and another for paid subscribers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guests may make one (1) free call every 24 hours of up to five 
>>>>>> minutes in
>>>>> length.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paid subscribers may make one (1) free call of up to five minutes 
>>>>>> in length
>>>>> every four hours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The app will have a timer located in the usage tab to make it easy 
>>>>>> to know
>>>>> when you can make your next call. For more about these changes, 
>>>>> please check out our Frequently Asked Questions here:
>>>>> https://aira.io/aira-is-free
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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