[Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer

Tue Sep 1 17:50:00 UTC 2020

I agre Jenny. I'm also in your situation regarding work, we both are
and it does seem that the NFB has no time for you if you can't work.
We are sharing an aira plan for right now, but may need to drop back
to the intro one. That's awful you haven't been able to get I. & M.

On 9/1/20, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Yes, you have a good point. I’m one of those that have multiple issues that
> make it to where I cannot work.
>
> I know it’s important to pay for quality and I use Aira. But I had to drop
> it back because of issues with separation and finances. This is the time
> where I really need it more than ever. But, that’s the way it is.
> Line
>
> The fact is, if you can’t work you don’t get anything. If you can’t go to
> school you don’t get anything.
>
> I’ve been blind total for two years never got training. Because I’m a
> second-class citizen because I can’t work.
>
> How are used to help me out with navigation and finding things, but I can’t
> use it as much anymore. So basically if you don’t work or go to school
> you’re not worth anything.
>
> My health issues prevent me from going to Littleton, and being blindfolded,
> so, there’s that and the State has a pay for it anyway. Which they won’t
>
> Anyway that’s my opinion. I think the NFB should concentrate on more people
> like me instead of just celebrating people who make though. I met her too.
> And I should be able to get some Owen M training. Like I said the NFB really
> needs to look at that because we shouldn’t be second-class citizens because
> of a legitimate reason.
>
> Jenny
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:16 AM, David Diamond via Electronics-Talk
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Well, as for the high cost, not to sound like I'm loaded with money, but,
>> I've heard them in action when they were helping a blind person.  Instead
>> of giving him sighted terms such as, over that way, when you get to the
>> second door turn to the right, etc. they gave him directions that are
>> clear and not to early.  Too early?  Yes, I'm still training my family
>> although it seems to be a lost cause, don't tell me to turn to the left or
>> right 5 feet before the turn.  Even my guide dog overrode the directions
>> when my wife told me to go to the left to get to the pharmacy, it was a
>> right hand turn, he took me to the right instead of following her
>> directions.  Unemployed blind people.  True, however, some have other
>> internal issues that prevent them from holding down a job even if they got
>> one.2 blind persons good at technology were teaching me computers, one
>> would frequently not show up for appointments and wanted us to pick him
>> up.  Or, the appointment would be for 5 PM on the phone, he'd sleep in
>> because of playing games or chatting on the phone well into the early
>> hours of the day.  Or, say his iPhone needed to be charged up and he
>> didn't notice.  He lived with his iPhone, almost attached to his ear.
>> You're going to tell me he did not notice.  Another person said because of
>> his blindness he was not aware of the time, as in day or night.  Try
>> pulling that at a job and see how far it takes you. Even at guide dog
>> schools they provide you with a talking radio/alarm clock.  The not
>> knowing if it was day or night would not fly there either.  So, it gets
>> back to my original thought, some are unemployable.  The crux of it all is
>> if you want quality help you have to pay for it.  Now these agencies that
>> receive funding from the government or suckers they can bilk for donations
>> that's, a different story.  As in a $100 donation goes for 90% of the
>> administrative costs. One of these agencies had a talking microwave oven.
>> All staff were sighted and frequently complained about the talking
>> microwave.  A blind person offered to teach them how to operate it.  They
>> declined his offer but continued to complain.  Helpful to the blind?
>> Hardly. An O & M instructor would frequently get lost when driving.  She
>> was told the correct street to take or highway, she ignored the direction
>> and just drove aimlessly feeling she'd find her way eventually.  Then
>> she'd probably tell the client she got held up in traffic.  They'd feel
>> sorry for her. Some of the elderly are so desperate for company they'd
>> swallow anything and are prime targets.  Of course the wasting of gas
>> would be covered by her salary so she didn't care. Another O & M
>> instructor took yearly vacations for 5 weeks.  Must be nice to have all of
>> that money where you can take safaris to Africa.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: September 1, 2020 6:40 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> <electronics-
>>> talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jenny Perdue <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>
>>> If I R a is really concerned about the blind population as a whole and
>>> know
>>> that they’re unemployed most of us, so maybe go down on the price is so
>>> more people can have it and they’ll make more money. But, it’s always
>>> always always us that has to stretch the limit of our budget when blind
>>> services or blind tech cost so horribly much.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 31, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Jacob Struiksma via Electronics-Talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>    The new plan is one free call once a day which is after 24 hours
>>>> from your call
>>>>
>>>> From
>>>> Jacob Struiksma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf
>>>> Of Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 6:39 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> While I don't think we should get freebees, I do understand why people
>>> kept calling back and pushed the envelope.
>>>> Some people are on tight budgets with little sighted support. Others are
>>> just stingy with money and tried to get away without buying.
>>>> Its sad that the blind population is underemployed and unemployed, but
>>>> till
>>> we have a higher employment rate, people are going to try to get
>>> something
>>> for free.
>>>>
>>>> Questions.
>>>> Is the new free plan for once a day or was I it once a week?
>>>> Also many places are already free access locations. Does anyone know if
>>> Dulass or Ragan airports are free access locations?
>>>> How about any museums in DC?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Leslie Fairall via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Aug 31, 2020 8:31 PM
>>>>> To: Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Leslie Fairall <fairall at panix.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Changes to AIRA 5-minute offer
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you, Jenny. There are always people who want something
>>>>> for nothing. I knew people who kept calling back using the free five
>>>>> minutes instead of purchasing a plan from Aira.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the $99 plan and been using it to help me get through a
>>>>> master's degree program. Aira has been so invaluable with helping me
>>>>> write my papers in MLA style. (I just found out I have to go to APA,
>>>>> sigh).
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know how much the plan with the most minutes costs? I
>>>>> might upgrade, but am not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Leslie Fairall
>>>>> mailto:fairall at panix.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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