[Electronics-Talk] free 411

[Rob Kaiser]

Consumer doesn't d thata.


Rob Kaiser Email;
rcubfank at sbcglobal.net


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From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:34 AM
To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
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Cc: cheez at cox.net
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] free 411

I haven't checked in some time, but Verizon used to have an exemption for
Information when it came to blind customers.  Or, at the least, such
customers were granted, [I think] 100 free calls per month.
Nonetheless, you would have to go to a brick and mortar in order to sign up
for the free service.
But I'll check to verify this when Verizon opens later today and will report
my findings.

Vince


-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 5:10 AM
To: Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] free 411


Here's the problem with directory assistance services, whether it's
800-FREE-411 or the traditional 411.   In the good old days, when big bad Ma
Bell, aaka the American Telephone and Telegraph Company, actually a
collection of separate wholly-owned regional operating companies under the
so-called Bell unbrella, was the only provider of phone service,all
companies and individuals were listed in their database, so when you dialed
411, an operator could look up the number for you, and there was a better
than 90% chance that she could find it.  For instance, before 1982, when Ma
Bell was broken up into 7 separate, independent regional Bell operating
companies, New York Telephone was a wholly owned subsidaiary of AT&T, so if
you dialed 411 in New York City, you could get the phone number for a
company located in Los Angeles, because the phone company there, Pacific
Bell, was also a wholly owned subsidiary of AT&T.  But today, thanks to
deregulation, there is no single phone company or service provider that
maintains a centralized list of all phone numbers for every company and
individual in the US, so 411 and free 411 services have become essentially
useless.  So if your land-line or cell phone carrier is Verizon, which
became the successor to New York Telephone through a series of mergers and
consolidations since 1982, , for instance, and you dial 411 you will only
have access to phone numbers for companies and individuals who are
registered with Verizon. If their primary carrier is another phone company
such as AT&T or T-Mobile or Consumer Cellular, then you will be out of luck.
Welcome to the new and chaotic wild, wild west of totally unregulated and
fragmented telephone service. What a mess!!!  When you dial 411 on your
Consumer Cellular cell phone, they will probably only have access to phone
numbers for companies and individuals registered with Consumer Cellular,
which is a relatively small number, because most listings are still
registered with Verizon, which is the largest phone service provider and the
only one which still has a historical connection to the old Ma B!
 ell/American Telephone & Telegraph company.  Don't confuse Verizon with
today's AT&T, which has no connection to the original company of the same
name and is actually the successor to MCI, which was one of the 7 original
RBOC's created in 1982. If all this sounds confusing, you're right.  You
need a Philadelphia lawyer to figure all this out.


Gerald



On 1/8/2021 11:50 PM, Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> I don't know what list to send this to, so, I'll try this 1. I'm with 
> consumer Cellular. My internet was down a few days agao & I needed to 
> look up a phone number. The only way I could get free directory 
> assistance was to use free 411. This is what consumer cellular told 
> me. If I used their 411 there was going to be a fee. When I called 
> free 411, I wasn't even able to give them a name of the business I 
> wanted to look up. Now, I've had problems with free 411 before, but 
> this was the worst. Is free 411 not working any more? If this is so, 
> do we have any platforms where we can get free directory assistance if 
> our internet is down? Or, are we doomed to having to either wait until 
> our internet comes up or pay a fee to call Directory Assistance?
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