[Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV

Raymond Foret Jr rforet7706 at comcast.net
Thu Aug 25 15:40:45 UTC 2022 

With all due respect, Peter, I think you still misunderstand me about the Apple TV app.


Let me explain. What I meant was this.
If you want to play Apple Music in Doe B Atmos, you cannot do so unless you have the Apple 4K TV connected to your Amazon fire TV or your sound bar or whatever TV you have. Yes, there is an Apple TV app for the Amazon fire TV. However, you cannot watch any of the extras that often come with movies bought through iTunes, and you cannot listen to music from Apple Music and Doe B Atmos with that app. I know what I’m talking about, because I have it on my fire TV.



No, you can watch movies in Doe B Atmos using the Apple TV app on your Amazon fire TV, or the fire TV cube. But this does not apply to Apple Music. Nor does it apply to any of the extras that come with mini movies purchased on iTunes. I know this is a matter of fact because Apple plainly says so, and I tried it myself.

Sincerely:
The constantly barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mack Verizon wireless iPhone and Apple TV user

Sent from my iPhone:
The first ever cellular phone equipped with Full accessibility for the blind built him!

> On Aug 25, 2022, at 10:13 AM, Peter via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Raymaond and everyone,
> 
>    There is a Firestick and Fire Cube App for Apple TV available. I know because we have it running on our Fire Cube.
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 7:58 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Raymond Foret Jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV
> 
>            I once had direct TV and yes they do deliver the audio description.  They also have a talking box now.  The issue seems to be that, with you, nobody bothered to try to tell you how to access it or that the Geeny box can actually give you voice guidance.  Anyhow, I switched to an Apple TV 4K 64 GB because I wanted as much Dolby atmos for my sound bar as I could get and while it’s true that the other services like Fire TV cube and now fire TV directly support Dolby atmos through Disney plus, HBO max and netflix, (if you pay for their most expensive package) they don’t let you hear any Apple music in Dolby atmos the way that Apple TV does.
> 
> As for the search, Alexa will find search results in some apps but not others.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Rik James via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Just to mention, I'm always hoping to learn more from this community. 
>> Thanks to all of you.
>> Here is my current way finding in this world of streaming devices and 
>> trying to use them.
>> If anyone sees where I have gotten some of this wrong, please reply. I 
>> am only just learning and trying to uncover the truth in my own world 
>> of exploring.
>> 
>> I have the Amazon Fire Stick 4K. I have had it now about 18 months. I 
>> like the Voice View. The speech voice could be a little easier for me 
>> to understand , but I am working it okay. I did get a TCL Roku TV. But 
>> boy, that voice is just impossible, so I guess I'm sticking with the Fire Stick.
>> I wonder if the voice using the Roku device is better?
>> 
>> The Search feature with the Fire Stick using the remote is nice, where 
>> you hold down the button above the circle on the remote and state your 
>> search, and the Amazon fire stick will populate the exact or next closest things.
>> But one thing about that. It only will populate your screen with items 
>> in the Amazon world. Amazon thing, or to state it more clearly, if you 
>> have a subscription purchased through Amazon, then those shows will 
>> appear in the rows of programs and suggestions. If you are using other 
>> apps and have a subscription with them directly, pressing the Search 
>> microphone will not yield results.  This is disappointing. I don't see 
>> where to Search directly in apps using a voice. Does anyone know?
>> 
>> I found that I didn't like not being able to just search through each 
>> app and find stuff, so I decided to subscribe directly to the 
>> individual streaming services, after trying them for a few months through Amazon.
>> 
>> It may be time to abandon my satellite service through DirecTV. It's 
>> been 23 years. My reason is mostly this. I guess there is no way that 
>> they can actually deliver the AD (audio description) which is 
>> available through these streaming apps, it makes sense to adapt to 
>> using the streaming as my principle way to enjoy entertainment. The 
>> audio description world is really exploding. But hey. I want AD on my 
>> current favorite series, one that is set where I live, YELLOWSTONE. I 
>> just got Peacock and was disappointed to see no AD on that show so far.
>> 
>> I'm using these apps currently: Paramount Plus Premium, Hulu Premium 
>> No Ads, and Peacock TV Premium no ads, HBO Max. And of course the 
>> Amazon's Prime Video.
>> Between those, you have a lot of the programming from networks. But 
>> some of them are continuing to only be on the cable and satellite. 
>> Maybe using the Live TV on one of those gets your more, I don't know.
>> 
>> Each app seems to have advantages and disadvantages as to how they 
>> work, like the players and such and navigating them, and how to set up 
>> the audio description. Learning how to navigate and turn on AD and 
>> subtitles can be a tricky deal. And then it may work one time and not 
>> the next time. After all, I guess we have to remember they are computers. Right?
>> 
>> I can't decide yet which I prefer the best for the software and 
>> player. But Paramount Plus may win the tech award. Peacock just got 
>> better, I noticed this week. So maybe all of them are refining how they work.
>> 
>> I tend to not like to see the monthly billing. So I see where they 
>> have annual subscriptions which shave off a couple months from the 
>> cost of doing it monthly.
>> I had Disney Plus to watch the Beatles film Get Back. But now, I just 
>> let it go. I enjoyed all 8 hours of the film for the last time on 
>> Monday. Bye-bye, Mickey.
>> 
>> I hope this little sharing note is of use to someone.
>> Sometimes I reminisce for when I was a kid. 3 channels on a TV 
>> antennae. If nothing was on, I could always entertain myself. Heck I 
>> did not even have a VCR until I was what age? Hmm? Well, put that in 
>> the trivia and memoirs book, Rik.
>> 
>> Rik James
>> Bozeman Montana
>> Host of radio music program Americana Backroads, KGLT-FM Saturdays 12 
>> to 3 p.m. Mountain time.
>> Streaming at KGLT.net
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 12:11 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV
>> 
>> I assume the exclusive content on Apple TV is Apple TV Plus. This 
>> content would be available on all Apple devices and anything 
>> supporting Airplay. You could even bring it up on a browser on a PC 
>> and then use Chromecast to a device that supports it.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>> Of David Andrews via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 5:55 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>; 'Discussion of accessible home 
>> electronics and appliances' <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews920 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV
>> 
>> Tracy,  You decide, in part based on what you want in terms of programming.
>> Apple TV has a bunch of programs it offers, and I think they are only 
>> available via Apple TV.
>> 
>> The fire Stick, Roku etc., give you a way to access different program 
>> streams, such as Netflix, Disney, Peacock etc. Also amazon.  There is 
>> a lot of spill over as you can access multiple services with different 
>> hardware, or phone apps, or a computer. It all can be a little confusing!
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> At 09:16 AM 8/18/2022, Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Dennis.  Why do you like the Apple TV better?
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 8:53 AM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Dennis Long
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV
>>> 
>>> They hook into the TV.  I personally like the Apple TV better.  I 
>>> have both products.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 8:22 AM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Fire stick and Apple TV
>>> 
>>> Can someone explain to this old gal about the Fire stick and the Apple TV?
>>> Do they hook into the TV, or into the cable box?  Do they only work 
>>> with smart TV's?
>>> 
>>> I looked up both of them, and I saw that they are both small things, 
>>> but the Apple TV costs a lot more than the Fire stick, but what is it?
>>> It's too small to be an actual TV.
>>> 
>>> I keep trying to understand these things, and I've googled, but what 
>>> I've found assumes a basic level of understanding I don't have.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've been using my iPhone to access various free TV apps, and I'm 
>>> wondering if one of these extra doodads would be better, though the 
>>> phone is pretty satisfactory. There is no one in my household who 
>>> actually can see what's on the TV. We only care about sound, and 
>>> getting audio descriptions when they're available.
>>> 
>>> Tracy
>> 
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