[Electronics-Talk] A New Totally-Featured Push-Button Phone is Definitely needed

Fri Jan 13 04:52:44 UTC 2023

Technically, it exists, the blind shall…


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> On Jan 12, 2023, at 22:49, Peter via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Good evening everyone,
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>    Carrying one device around is more convenient than two. We're better than that to engage in neveritis. Anyone that wants to go down that road can help us cover our caregiver expense of having to be taken to T-Mobile every time we're loged out of our Apple Account. Every attempt to get help from T-Mobile and Apple has failed. We're really getting tired of this stuff. Having a full-featured cell phone with push-buttons would put an end to this unnecessary hardship and take a bite out of our caregiver costs.
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> Peter Donahue
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> Peter Donahue
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> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 6:57 PM
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> Cc: Haylie Gallacher <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] A New Totally-Featured Push-Button Phone is Definitely needed
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> Never going to happen.  Simple solution, get a Bluetooth keyboard.
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> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Donahue via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 7:09 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances' <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mary Donahue <braille at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] A New Totally-Featured Push-Button Phone is Definitely needed
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> Good evening everyone,
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>    Since the subject line was about a totally push-button smartphone, I want to get on and share my thoughts.
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>    I have been using cell phones since 2004, and the iPhone since 2015. My manual dexterity was never that good, so I am not very touch-screen savvy. Whenever I have to verify my Apple ID and password, I have to take it to T-mobile, our cell phone carrier, to help me log back in. I can text people using Siri. At the same time, when I bump the rotor, the speech speeds up, and sometimes I have to get help. We have a caregiver who comes on Wednesdays. When I have to make extra stops at T-Mobile, for example, it brings up the cost on our caregiving service. Therefore, I think all of the phone providers who have touch screens should have tactile features as well. It would definitely make my job of logging into Apple iCloud or using any other apps much easier.
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>    I should like to add that most of my co-workers have Android phones, not Apple, so they cannot always help me out with logging in. Let us push for a totally accessible smartphone with tactile buttons, any apps we choose to use,  _and a touch screen!
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> Mary Donahue
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> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sylvia Reid via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 5:17 PM
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> Cc: Sylvia Reid <shevra at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] A New Totally-Featured Push-Button Phone is Definitely needed
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> Five years ago, I researched Gogo grandparent for my Delaware affiliate and gave a short report. The drivers are supposed to be specially trained. If you are older, and not very tech savvy, or if you are caregiving, someone who is, this is a good way to go because it will email a third-party of your  of your choosing telling that you have arrived. It’s extremely easy to use. However, it does cost more. I have never had any trouble getting a ride, but haven’t used it since the pandemic. – – Sylvia read 
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>> On Jan 12, 2023, at 12:51 PM, Peter via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Good afternoon everyone,
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>>   I don't mean to belabor the point but the points made below are a clear reason why a fully-featured push-button smartphone is needed instead of the sorry dumb phones that have come out recently which do not allow one to use services like Lyft and Uber forcing customers capable of using these services with a push-button phone to use of third party services like Gogo Grandparent making the use of rideshare services less costly. This is just one of many examples I can think of why a fully-featured push-button smartphone is needed. I smell a resolution in the works for consideration at this year's NFB Convention.
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>> Peter Donahue
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>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>> Of Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 5:57 AM
>> To: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] That New Phone
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>> GoGo Grandparent allows you to book Uber rides with any telephone, even a land line phone, once you register with them.
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>> They charge the regular Uber fare, plus an additional charge of 27 cents per minute for their service.  So a one hour Uber trip would cost the regular Uber fare, plus about an additional $16for the Gogo Grandparent service. This could become very, very expensive if you make a lot of trips with Uber.  But the dirty little secret about Uber and Lift that nobody likes to talk about is that they can leave you stranded with no way to get home.  Suppose you book a Uber trip to go  to a doctor's appointment.  When the appointment is finished, you call for a return trip to go home, but you are told, sorry, we don't have any vehicles available to pick you up?  Then what?  Gogo Grandparent tells you to have a "Plan B" for such a contingency.  Seriously?  What are you supposed to do?  Walk all the way home?  Caveat emptor. For anyone who has used GoGo, please share your experiences.
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>> GoGo Grandparent:
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>> 855-GOGO-USA
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>> Gerald
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>>>> On 1/12/2023 6:34 AM, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>> I wonder if that 800-number gives you the lowest price for an Uber.
>>> I've never tried the 800-number.  I have the app and it shows at 
>>> least
>>> 4 options.
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>>> Vince
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>>> From: Electronics-Talk<electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>  On 
>>> Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:57 PM
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>>> Oh; no I'm not.  I live near Kansas City, MO.
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>>> Because of hand difficulties and lack of sensitivity in my hands plus 
>>> tremors, this phone might be a real solution for me.
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>>> Darla
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>>> From: Electronics-Talk<electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>  On 
>>> Behalf Of Donald Moore via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 6:30 PM
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>>> I don't know if you're still in Florida, but they have an 800 number 
>>> that blind people without the app can call.
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>>> From: Electronics-Talk<electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>  On 
>>> Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers via Electronics-Talk
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>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] That New Phone
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>>> I think it is called the Blind Shell Classic; while it seems to be 
>>> able to do some things, can anyone look into their crystal ball to 
>>> see if they can or will add programs like Uber?
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>>> Darla
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