[Fabs] Mac Computer

Paul Martinez paul09ms at gmail.com
Tue Aug 11 01:06:32 UTC 2015 

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Paul Martinez On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Mauricio Almeida via Fabs <fabs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings all,
> First, I see no need to be this discouraging as far as macs are
> concerned, as I have a friend who recently completed an internship at
> apple, and is graduating in computer science with a mac as the
> computer she does most of her things on. However, Jorge's message
> serves as a reminder that there is a learning curve with the mac, and
> if one thinks it can be learned in a day or two, unless technology is
> what they breath this is not going to happen. Also, while I have not
> seen any professors this harsh and avoid generalizing especially using
> extreme situations as Law school, as we do not know what the
> difficulty of the student was and or what their technology
> experience/whillingness to adapt was, I will say that there might be
> situations where windows is the preferred system, and because there
> are less people using mac than windows, it might be easier to get help
> for it. However, so long as the user understands the learning curve of
> the mac and finds it worth dealing with it can certainly be a great
> system.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mauricio
> 
>> On 8/10/15, Esmarten via Fabs <fabs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Sorry, forgot to add that last rely was from Eric Marten. My bad!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Esmarten via Fabs <fabs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I will disagree and agree with Jorge on what he said.
>>> 
>>> When it comes to using Voice Over and JAWS, I cannot say much as they are
>>> not part of my daily life.
>>> 
>>> When it comes to document compatibility, you can get MS Office for mac
>>> which from my experience works just as well as the standard windows
>>> version once you get used to where all the settings are, as more than half
>>> of the settings are not on the ribbon itself, but through a task bar. Hard
>>> to explain with typing, but OSX has a task bar at the top of the screen
>>> that holds drop down menus for the selected application as well as many
>>> system functions such as date and time, battery, internet, etc.
>>> 
>>> I personally have never seen a part of a syllabus that says a teacher will
>>> not accept work produced on a mac just because of the brand of computer.
>>> Not saying it does not happen and for Jorge to say that he must have seen
>>> it many times, just personally I have not.
>>> 
>>> I have also done many online courses and never seen that part of a
>>> syllabus.
>>> 
>>> Also, I have had my mac boot camped for 2 of the 3 years under apple care,
>>> and they did not seem to even notice, or care.
>>> 
>>> As I said above, I have no idea how Voice Over / JAWS affects any of this
>>> but  my experience is this.
>>> 
>>> In the grand scheme of things, if you are already familiar with JAWS and
>>> Windows then why switch in the middle of college? Also, keep in mind that
>>> Apple's IOS system is completely different that OSX ( the computers ). If
>>> you want to get one to play with or even to learn on in case you feel like
>>> transitioning, or your job in the future uses macs then that does not
>>> hurt. I would recommend buying a older mac for that purpose though. As
>>> long as it is at least 2011 model year or newer I think it would do that
>>> service.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Jorge Hernandez via Fabs <fabs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> FYI
>>>> 
>>>> As a Computer Science /Information Technology  graduate, I will advise
>>>> you
>>>> not to purchase a MAC  computer just because you can use an IPhone
>>>> fluently.
>>>> 
>>>> A MAC notebook is a totally different device from an IPhone.  Let me
>>>> give
>>>> you a heads-up.
>>>> 
>>>> I have worked with adaptive technology for over 20 years and I can
>>>> assure
>>>> you that you will be asking for trouble if you are thinking to use this
>>>> notebook for College.  For starters, you will depend on your Windows
>>>> platform to do most of your College work because voice-over will not work
>>>> as
>>>> well as JAWS will when it comes in creating any type of document on
>>>> word,
>>>> excel, access, and even power point.  I worked with a graduate student
>>>> who
>>>> is in her second year of law school at the University  of Miami and she
>>>> is a
>>>> fluent IPhone user.  She was advised by an individual who did not know
>>>> what
>>>> adaptive technology is and told her to purchase a MAC notebook.  She
>>>> faced
>>>> very difficult times in her first year of law school because her MAC
>>>> notebook would not read 90% of the assignments her professors would
>>>> provide.
>>>> She had to purchase a Windows platform notebook again so she can
>>>> continue
>>>> with her law degree.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are thinking of installing Windows in the MAC notebook using boot
>>>> camp, you will void the warranty and no Apple store will provide
>>>> technical
>>>> support on the Windows side of the device and they will not even look at
>>>> the
>>>> MAC OX side of the device either.
>>>> 
>>>> Moreover, most College / University professors will have a note on their
>>>> syllabus  that if you have a MAC notebook, that they will not accept
>>>> your
>>>> work and if you will need assistance with online courses, that you are
>>>> on
>>>> your own.  Again, be advised, you will be spending  money on  a device
>>>> that
>>>> will not be of use to you.  Do not purchase a device just because it is
>>>> pretty, it is what everyone else is using, or just because you think
>>>> that
>>>> you can use an IPhone fluently.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck
>>>> 
>>>> Jorge Hernandez
>>>> Vice-President
>>>> Miami-Dade Chapter
>>>> Board of Directors
>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Florida
>>>> Board of Directors
>>>> Florida Association of Blind Students
>>>> Fundraiser Co-Chair
>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Florida
>>>> Fundraiser Chair
>>>> Florida Association of Blind Students
>>>> 
>>>> " live the life you want "
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Fabs [mailto:fabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
>>>> via
>>>> Fabs
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:38 PM
>>>> To: Florida Association of Blind Students
>>>> Cc: Helga Schreiber
>>>> Subject: [Fabs] Mac Computer
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you here a
>>>> Mac
>>>> computer user? And if so,  would  you be able to teach me how to use it
>>>> step
>>>> by step? I'm just wondering since tomorrow I'm planning to buy a Mac
>>>> computer in order to use it for school guys! And i actually find some
>>>> instructions in how to use it in the applvist website, and also a video
>>>> in
>>>> youtube with a few minutes in how to use a Mac with Voiceover. however,
>>>> I
>>>> would like to have a one to one instructor, who will be able to walk me
>>>> through walk me through th e process in how to use a Mac computer. Just
>>>> to
>>>> let you know, I'm an iphone user and i use a bluetooth keyboard. And I'm
>>>> definitely a quick learner and after lerning the commands of the
>>>> Keyboard,
>>>> I'm able to apply it! Feel free to contact me off list regarding this
>>>> matter
>>>> since I don't want to clutter the list ok? I look forward in hearing
>>>> from
>>>> you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!
>>>> 
>>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>> 
>>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>>>> Blind
>>>> Students.
>>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>>> 
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>>>> whoever
>>>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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